Interior / glass
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Laughing Gas
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Interior / glass
Got the Cartouche/Macs/Ecklers interior kit (headliner, cab panels) — don’t see any instructions in the box… assume not complicated, but wondering if it matters what order to install the pieces? I believe the website did say I’d have to cut rear panel larger for ‘52 window. Otherwise just start screwing pieces in?
Speaking of glass, is it better to install windshield and rear window before or after interior panels? Think I saw something somewhere here that rear panel tucks into rubber moulding.
Advice (photos?) appreciated, thanks.
Speaking of glass, is it better to install windshield and rear window before or after interior panels? Think I saw something somewhere here that rear panel tucks into rubber moulding.
Advice (photos?) appreciated, thanks.
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Laughing Gas
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Plus new question: can the rear glass be installed by one person (in theory)? Need to know if I have to track down some help or not.
Thanks!
(Must mean I'm getting closer and closer!)
Plus new question: can the rear glass be installed by one person (in theory)? Need to know if I have to track down some help or not.
Thanks!
(Must mean I'm getting closer and closer!)
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The rear glass can be installed solo - it goes in from the inside. Be certain to use the cord/twine technique to seat the lip fully out. Patience is critical to avoid breaking the glass.
On the other question: The escutcheons I've seen on 48-50s were all like the metal version in your pic. Haven't seen a rubber piece like yours.
On the other question: The escutcheons I've seen on 48-50s were all like the metal version in your pic. Haven't seen a rubber piece like yours.
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Laughing Gas
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thanks... i ordered the "glass install kit" from midfifty (which includes the rope).
i'll pull all of the door pieces together this weekend for an inventory of what all i have and what i may still need. maybe it will become clear at that point.
:cheers:
i'll pull all of the door pieces together this weekend for an inventory of what all i have and what i may still need. maybe it will become clear at that point.
:cheers:
The rear glass can be installed solo - it goes in from the inside. Be certain to use the cord/twine technique to seat the lip fully out. Patience is critical to avoid breaking the glass.
On the other question: The escutcheons I've seen on 48-50s were all like the metal version in your pic. Haven't seen a rubber piece like yours.
On the other question: The escutcheons I've seen on 48-50s were all like the metal version in your pic. Haven't seen a rubber piece like yours.
Laughing Gas
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I've done two of the rear windows (admittedly on the smaller 48 - 50 rear windows) but I wouldn't do it without a helper to keep some pressure on the window from the inside while the rope is pulling the seal over the lip opening from the outside. Even then it was a PITA.
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The metal escutcheons were used on 48-50 trucks, and 51-2 with the deluxe cab. Standard cab 51-52 got the rubber ones. If you have a set of 4 metal ones, I'd use those, if it were me.
Regarding the rear window, it may be possible to install the glass by yourself, but it sure would be a lot easier to have someone hold it in place from the inside, while you work the rope to install it from the outside. ( or vice-versa) It's an awkward and difficult job to do by yourself.
Regarding the rear window, it may be possible to install the glass by yourself, but it sure would be a lot easier to have someone hold it in place from the inside, while you work the rope to install it from the outside. ( or vice-versa) It's an awkward and difficult job to do by yourself.
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Laughing Gas
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do both window and door handles get escutcheons? i've got 4 total, 2 of each (5 star, '52). they appear to be different size which is why i thought maybe one pair was for window and the other for door.
The metal escutcheons were used on 48-50 trucks, and 51-2 with the deluxe cab. Standard cab 51-52 got the rubber ones. If you have a set of 4 metal ones, I'd use those, if it were me.
Regarding the rear window, it may be possible to install the glass by yourself, but it sure would be a lot easier to have someone hold it in place from the inside, while you work the rope to install it from the outside. ( or vice-versa) It's an awkward and difficult job to do by yourself.
Regarding the rear window, it may be possible to install the glass by yourself, but it sure would be a lot easier to have someone hold it in place from the inside, while you work the rope to install it from the outside. ( or vice-versa) It's an awkward and difficult job to do by yourself.
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Laughing Gas
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getting ready to install rear glass. i've got the rope kit from mid-fifty. the directions say to install from the inside. but then at the very bottom of the page it says the "big window" installs from the outside. i wasn't sure if that was referring to a '56 "big window", or if they meant the bigger window of the '52 over the '48. i called mid-fifty, and the rep i spoke to (after checking with someone else) said to install it from the outside. but i have to say she didn't sound too certain.
fwiw, i can see traces of adhesive on the outside window flange.
can anyone definitively tell me how to install rear glass and where the adhesive (butyl) should be applied???
thank you.
fwiw, i can see traces of adhesive on the outside window flange.
can anyone definitively tell me how to install rear glass and where the adhesive (butyl) should be applied???
thank you.
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Laughing Gas
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i've got the headliner sitting in place and am a bit confused (see a trend here??) about whether the backside goes in front of or behind the flange. i've got it sitting behind the flange now, but am wondering if that is incorrect. the directions provided are horrible (illustrations would go a long way) -- they reference the 4 holes above the door, but the headliner has only 3 (large) pre-drilled holes which are not going to line up well at all with the topside of the door frame/flange.
anybody got pix?
TIA
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getting ready to install rear glass. i've got the rope kit from mid-fifty. the directions say to install from the inside. but then at the very bottom of the page it says the "big window" installs from the outside. i wasn't sure if that was referring to a '56 "big window", or if they meant the bigger window of the '52 over the '48. i called mid-fifty, and the rep i spoke to (after checking with someone else) said to install it from the outside. but i have to say she didn't sound too certain.
fwiw, i can see traces of adhesive on the outside window flange.
can anyone definitively tell me how to install rear glass and where the adhesive (butyl) should be applied???
thank you.
fwiw, i can see traces of adhesive on the outside window flange.
can anyone definitively tell me how to install rear glass and where the adhesive (butyl) should be applied???
thank you.
I can't help too much on the headliner. All I know is it tucks into the header panel over the windshield then lifts into place, and is really easy to crease and ruin if not careful, says some of the guys here who have tried doing this before. Good luck.
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Laughing Gas
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Thanks. Seems odd they’d add reference to “big window” since I assume the interior kit has to be different than 48-52. Now that I have rubber around rear glass I can see it makes sense to install from inside.
However, does butyl bead just go along exterior side, or interior, too?
However, does butyl bead just go along exterior side, or interior, too?
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Laughing Gas
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And yes, I creased headliner a bit trying to place behind rear flange (erroneously). Oh well. There are worse problems to have!
Off to to hardware store to get some self-drilling screws since these 3 holes aren’t gonna lineup with the 4 holes!
Off to to hardware store to get some self-drilling screws since these 3 holes aren’t gonna lineup with the 4 holes!
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The original trim screws would have looked something like this, oval head phillips with a finishing washer built in, only not chrome plated. They would have been more of a matching interior color.
Butyl caulk would only be applied as a sealer behind the lip of the weatherstrip on the exterior of the body to keep water from intruding.
Butyl caulk would only be applied as a sealer behind the lip of the weatherstrip on the exterior of the body to keep water from intruding.