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Old Jul 17, 2018 | 07:52 AM
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Manual Transfer Case Shifting

I am shopping for a 2018 F250 with manual transfer case and manual wheel hubs, but I found something concerning in the manual. The manual says you have to Shift On Stop from 2WD to 4WD high. In my 2004 with manual case and manual hubs, as long as hubs are locked in, I can shift from 2WD to 4WD high at speeds up to 50 mph (as long as there is no wheel slippage). Can someone with 2017/18 manual transfer case confirm if you can shift on fly from 2WD to 4WD high? Any issues, or is this just Ford being careful from misuse? Thanks, Philip.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2018 | 07:58 AM
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It's the same. Lock hubs, use as shift-on-fly
 
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Old Jul 17, 2018 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by philips
I am shopping for a 2018 F250 with manual transfer case and manual wheel hubs, but I found something concerning in the manual. The manual says you have to Shift On Stop from 2WD to 4WD high. In my 2004 with manual case and manual hubs, as long as hubs are locked in, I can shift from 2WD to 4WD high at speeds up to 50 mph (as long as there is no wheel slippage). Can someone with 2017/18 manual transfer case confirm if you can shift on fly from 2WD to 4WD high? Any issues, or is this just Ford being careful from misuse? Thanks, Philip.
I think it is just Fords way of wording, like "Medium Duty Battery", from that description, u would not know it means "Dual Batteries". Good luck finding one, I gave up and ordered a 2019 with Manual Transfer. I think Dealers should read this forum once and awhile, they may learn how to Spec a truck.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2018 | 11:42 PM
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My 2017 manual 4x4 is the same as any I've had. Lock the hubs, and shift in and out of 4x4 on the hwy as needed. No problems there.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2018 | 06:05 AM
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Thanks for the replies! Philip.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2018 | 06:57 AM
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You can still use the 4 low gearing without your hubs locked in like before too.
I love my manual shifter and have seen way too many problems with the automatic over the years.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 08:12 PM
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Just bought 19’ with manual shift. I’ve noticed the floor shifter doesn’t illuminate, just white letters. Guess their assuming all 4wd is to be done during daylight hours only.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 08:26 PM
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The floor shifter has never illuminated, it's always been shown on the dash.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 08:54 PM
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Gotcha thanks. This is my first Ford. My shift on the fly Chevys always had a small light bulb at the shifter, especially helpful at night coming out of the woods.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 10:01 AM
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Can the manual shift be retrofited to a truck shipped with the electronic version?
 
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 10:04 AM
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The cost to do it is not worth it. But yes it can and has been done.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 10:10 AM
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The cost to do it is not worth it. But yes it can and has been done.
Any insight you can share? I am pretty good at fabrication and customization, installs etc so the idea of doing it all myself is not intimidating. What's the cost driver? I am thinking that I find a wrecked XL truck and scavenge the parts.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 10:42 AM
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Any insight you can share? I am pretty good at fabrication and customization, installs etc so the idea of doing it all myself is not intimidating. What's the cost driver? I am thinking that I find a wrecked XL truck and scavenge the parts.
You'd need the manual transfer case, manual front hubs, the in-cab shift lever and linkage, you'd have to cut a hole in the floorpan, somehow hook up the selector switch harness to the truck harness (which may not be the same between a manual and auto version) and use FORScan to tell the truck it now has the MSOF system. Totally not worth it, especially since the auto version is superior.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 11:19 AM
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I am surprised that the xfer cases are different. I would have thought it was just a shifter that is different. The front hubs should be the same, too. The automatic are also manual. On older trucks, these were vacuum operated, dont know about my brand new rig, will have to look into that. The early vacuum operated auto hubs were notorious for sucking crap into them the first time you drove through water or mud that was over the hubs -- I hope that has been remedied. Cutting the floorpan doesn't scare me, I have done that sort of mod before on other vehicles. The harness is an interesting issue, and who knows, the scan tool may not be able to make such a change.

Having personally been stuck in a 4X4 superduty with one rear wheel on wet grass (actually, two, it was a dually) and the other wheels on dry gravel and being STUCK to the point of having to get a tow because the doggone electronic 4X4 engagement would NOT engage....I dont like the automatic 4X4 stuff. But its what I now own.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2018 | 12:07 PM
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Get this....my new SD came from factory with one hub locked, one was in free mode. Kept wondering what the sound was when making right turns. Geez.
 
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