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Old 07-06-2018, 06:05 PM
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My 2012 F150 with the 3.5L Eco is still running strong & that truck was used hard. I also have an 2017 Explorer with the 3.5 Eco & my current F150 is a Lariat with the 2.7 Eco. I've towed my boat and car many places with the 2.7 it's an impressive engine.
 
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Old 07-06-2018, 07:23 PM
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JMO with no heavy towing the 2.7 might make you happy. '18 upgrade includes 400 lb/ft, which you will enjoy immensely. A little better mpg than the 3.5 or V8.

Hard to make a bad choice there IMO.
 
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Originally Posted by xr7gt390
My 2012 F150 with the 3.5L Eco is still running strong & that truck was used hard. I also have an 2017 Explorer with the 3.5 Eco & my current F150 is a Lariat with the 2.7 Eco. I've towed my boat and car many places with the 2.7 it's an impressive engine.

how well does does it tow your car and boat. My dealer told me it would be in the red zone rpms towing something. 7000 lb rating I think
 
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Old 07-06-2018, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by derek4343
how well does does it tow your car and boat. My dealer told me it would be in the red zone rpms towing something. 7000 lb rating I think
I would call BS on that. The 2.7L EB has more torque than the 5.0L V8 at low RPM. The lines don't cross until something around 3500 RPM.

 
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Old 07-07-2018, 10:16 AM
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The 2.7l is pretty stout. My 2017 pulls my 18' bowrider, easily. Mine is rated for 8k lbs with the 3.73 rear end.
 
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Aren’t they about the same torque but come in at different rpms? I agree they’re all good. Guess it depends on what I/you need in a truck. Mostly a daily driver for me. I’m selling my 6500 lb boat so I’ll most likely down size to something in the 19-21 footer. Anything can pull that. I haven’t test driven the 2.7 yet. They look fun watching all the YouTube videos. Thanks for replies so far. Keep them coming.
 
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Old 07-08-2018, 07:53 AM
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I was going to get the 5L, in fact it's difficult to find the EB motors here in rural Ontario. The V8 is king. After taking many test drives I found I didn't like how the 5 L drove. Loads of power and a great sound but you really had to get the revs up to make it move. It drove like a sports car motor. (which I guess it is). The 3.5 was more sedate until you floored it then with little drama you were going 70. If I were not towing I would have got the 5L but I think it would be screaming up steep hills with my TT behind it.
 
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Old 07-08-2018, 08:55 AM
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Ok but I thought the 5.0 was good for towing 10,000 lbs plus. Plus these motors can handle the revs. Not trying to doubt anyone that’s why I started this thread. I guess every motor has its advantages and disadvantages
 
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The 5.0L is a strong motor, but the comparison to the 2.7L EcoBoost is deceiving. The 5.0L doesn't get to 400 ft-lbs until around 4200 RPM. The 2.7L starts producing real torque at around 1800 RPM, and reaches peak torque almost 1,000 RPM lower than the V8. The result is that the 2.7L will be producing more power at lower RPM than the V8 most of the time. This is a rational explanation for the differences.
 
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No one tells you the facts. The tow rating is an empty truck with only a 150# driver, and a full tank of fuel. No girlfriend or wife, no kids, no dog, no hamburger or coke in the cup holder. Nothing in the bed. No aftermarket floor mats. No tonneau. No NOTHING. That nets your max towing capacity. Period. While it seems trivial, I've never seen a trailer empty when hauling a truck. We use them. To me,it's an asinine rating. Post it AFTER the payload is consumed.
yes, the 5.0L will haul what the 3.5L EcoBoost will, but what is your comfort level when towing? Do you need to be first to the next light? Do you need to whip on the interstate from a merge ramp? Any then, what about stopping? Not at a light, but in an emergency. Will you be overloaded? Should you really consider a 3/4 ton?
I have towed a variety of trailers and weights up to 10,000#, and I'd NEVER consider a 1/2 ton for 10k plus in towed weight. Thsts a recipie for disaster. 6k to 8k is no problem properly loaded and distributed. The 5.0L and 3.5L will both pull that, but what are the expectations? Can you handle a 4th gear scream up a long grade, or a 5th or 6th pull with pedal to spare. And, what's the frequency? Twelve weekends out of 52, but daily driving the other ~250 days?
 
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Old 07-08-2018, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by smokewagun
No one tells you the facts. The tow rating is an empty truck with only a 150# driver, and a full tank of fuel. No girlfriend or wife, no kids, no dog, no hamburger or coke in the cup holder. Nothing in the bed. No aftermarket floor mats. No tonneau. No NOTHING. That nets your max towing capacity. Period. While it seems trivial, I've never seen a trailer empty when hauling a truck. We use them. To me,it's an asinine rating. Post it AFTER the payload is consumed.
yes, the 5.0L will haul what the 3.5L EcoBoost will, but what is your comfort level when towing? Do you need to be first to the next light? Do you need to whip on the interstate from a merge ramp? Any then, what about stopping? Not at a light, but in an emergency. Will you be overloaded? Should you really consider a 3/4 ton?
I have towed a variety of trailers and weights up to 10,000#, and I'd NEVER consider a 1/2 ton for 10k plus in towed weight. Thsts a recipie for disaster. 6k to 8k is no problem properly loaded and distributed. The 5.0L and 3.5L will both pull that, but what are the expectations? Can you handle a 4th gear scream up a long grade, or a 5th or 6th pull with pedal to spare. And, what's the frequency? Twelve weekends out of 52, but daily driving the other ~250 days?
What he said, Great post.
 
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Makes sense to me. Everyone has different situations and needs. I guess one/me has to figure out what I’ll really need in a truck Thanks so far. I’ll have to drive that 2.7 one day
 
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Old 07-09-2018, 06:37 PM
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[QUOTE=America78;18072698]Not sure that you can make a wrong decision here (aside from the underpowered 3.3, if it's even available in the truck you want).

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Who told you that the 3.3 is underpowered? With 290 hp it has loads of power. I've towed with it and hauled heavy loads and had no problems whatsoever. I had a 2012 and the turbos went out at 166k so I'm done with them...
 
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My company truck is a 2wd 3.5 na. 2017. So not as much as the newer 3.3. In all honesty it really does the job. I haven’t towed anything with it yet but it’ll probably be fine up to 4000-5000 lbs. I don’t know what rear end it has but 373 would really wake it up.
 
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Given no towing duty - go test drive them all and buy the one you like best.
 


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