Is this a GPR Problem
#16
Quirk is on eBay. They have Ford dealerships in New England. The probably have an 800 number to order from too. I felt good about ordering from them since I have actually been to one of their dealerships. There are counterfeit name brand parts out there. Don't know about Motorcraft but I don't put anything past thieves these days.
We have very helpful people on this forum who sell good parts. It's good to support them, works both ways.
I don't know how well the system protects itself from high pressures without the ICP. Seems like it should be OK but it might be a limp-home thing. Does it set the check engine light? I know some tunes buck up the pressure. Don't know how much.
We have very helpful people on this forum who sell good parts. It's good to support them, works both ways.
I don't know how well the system protects itself from high pressures without the ICP. Seems like it should be OK but it might be a limp-home thing. Does it set the check engine light? I know some tunes buck up the pressure. Don't know how much.
#17
Well, yesterday sucked. I bought a $170 IPC from Advance Auto parts, installed it, cleaned the connector, and went to start the truck. No luck. So, even though the IPC was full of oil, apparently that was not the problem, or not the only problem. So the flow chart says to check the HPOP pressure with a mechanical gauge or code reader, of which I have neither. My rig is a 1995, but it has an OPB2 port, so I go to O'Reillys and their Bosch reader can't connect. Then I go to Auto Zone, and their Innova reader makes a beep, but when hooked up to the computer it says 'no codes'. It only reads 'check engine' codes he says, but this other one can do live updates, just buy it for $240 and return it later for a full refund. So I take it home, and the only options on the vehicle menu start with 1996. I try to trick it by saying my rig is a 1996 7.3L F-250, but it won't connect to it at all. So I drive back to the store for my refund, and now have waster most of my Sunday afternoon to get absolutely nowhere. Put on my shoes and went for a run, because otherwise I was going to shoot somebody.
I did check the HPOP level, it has plenty of oil in it. Here's the other thing - once I get the truck started, as happens occasionally, then it does fine. I must have started it 6 more times and drove it around once I finally got it started, all with no issues. The weather was about 68 degrees yesterday. Could this just be a glow plug issue? I don't know how to test my glow plugs, but even if just a few were working I felt like it should start at these warm temperatures.
I did check the HPOP level, it has plenty of oil in it. Here's the other thing - once I get the truck started, as happens occasionally, then it does fine. I must have started it 6 more times and drove it around once I finally got it started, all with no issues. The weather was about 68 degrees yesterday. Could this just be a glow plug issue? I don't know how to test my glow plugs, but even if just a few were working I felt like it should start at these warm temperatures.
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I'm trying to follow the flow chart, but I'm stuck on the HPOP since I don't have a gauge that goes to 500psi, and there aren't scanners available that will read an OBP2 connector on a 1995 vehicle. If I buy a BT scanner and app, how do I know that it will work with a 1995 vehicle with an OPB2 connector? All the car parts guys tell me that they didn't go to OPB2 until 1996, and my plug is under the glove box instead of on the driver's side. Is this an aftmarket mod that the previous owner installed?
On the other hand, if the truck runs clean once its going, and accelerates smoothly, doesn't that suggest that the HPOP is doing it's job well supplying high pressure oil to the injectors?
On the other hand, if the truck runs clean once its going, and accelerates smoothly, doesn't that suggest that the HPOP is doing it's job well supplying high pressure oil to the injectors?
#22
My 95 works with the following.
scanner to monitor your engine
Torque Pro
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...g.prowl.torque
Use the communication in the profile
SAE J1850-PWM
make sure you add in Ford PIDs
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ch.CarGaugePro
people like it cause it will pull codes, buzz test and CCT
Warning, Some OLD PCM's have to be flashed before you can pull codes
Find out your IPR% duty at idle, when its too high it means your injector orings are shot.
or list where you are from and maybe someone could offer to connect and see if it works on your
scanner to monitor your engine
https://www.amazon.com/Vgate-Bluetooth-Scanner-TORQUE-ANDROID/dp/B00AAOOQJC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473776759&sr=8-1&keywords=vgate+OBD2
Torque Pro
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...g.prowl.torque
Use the communication in the profile
SAE J1850-PWM
make sure you add in Ford PIDs
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ch.CarGaugePro
people like it cause it will pull codes, buzz test and CCT
Warning, Some OLD PCM's have to be flashed before you can pull codes
Find out your IPR% duty at idle, when its too high it means your injector orings are shot.
or list where you are from and maybe someone could offer to connect and see if it works on your
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Runs well on my BlackBerry Priv and DTEK60 phone
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I haven't been to a mechanic in 10 years, but it looks like I met my match. I don't know what it means to flash the PCM, or what a buzz test is, or what the IPR duty cycle would or should be. I don't have Android, and I see that there are dozens of readers from VGate on Amazon, but not clear what's different from one to the next. It looks like I'll just have to take this to a mechanic and take out a second mortgage on the house.
Can anyone recommend a good mechanic in Spokane, WA?
Harley
Can anyone recommend a good mechanic in Spokane, WA?
Harley
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You can check your HPOP pressure with a mechanical gauge. I did mine. Here's a link to my thread>
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...n-low-icp.html
My thread was a lot of BS from me trying to learn. It's not as complicated as I make it look.
The link in the no-start flowchart also shows what you need.
You need a gauge that goes a lot higher than 500psi. Your HPOP can pump up 3600psi or so. A 5000psi gauge is $10 on eBay. Tractor supply sells cheap hoses. Be safe, hydraulics can maim you for life.
I got a cheap fitting from eBay to deadhead my HPOP. I don't know how safe it is to do that. I was careful to limit how high the pressure went.
The OBDlink MX BT adapter I got was not the cheapest but I'll use it on any OBDII vehicle for years to come. It is on eBay, Amazon, etc.
I would be real scared to take this to a mechanic unless you know an honest, trustworthy one who really knows these trucks. If you pay someone to learn on your truck it probably will get real ugly.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...n-low-icp.html
My thread was a lot of BS from me trying to learn. It's not as complicated as I make it look.
The link in the no-start flowchart also shows what you need.
You need a gauge that goes a lot higher than 500psi. Your HPOP can pump up 3600psi or so. A 5000psi gauge is $10 on eBay. Tractor supply sells cheap hoses. Be safe, hydraulics can maim you for life.
I got a cheap fitting from eBay to deadhead my HPOP. I don't know how safe it is to do that. I was careful to limit how high the pressure went.
The OBDlink MX BT adapter I got was not the cheapest but I'll use it on any OBDII vehicle for years to come. It is on eBay, Amazon, etc.
I would be real scared to take this to a mechanic unless you know an honest, trustworthy one who really knows these trucks. If you pay someone to learn on your truck it probably will get real ugly.
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Buddy - I haven't tried plugging in the block heater. It was in the 80's here the last time I tried to start it, so I don't think it's a glow plug problem. Or would that tell me something else?
867.309 - I also don't think it's a HPOP problem since the truck runs and accelerates fine in those instances where I am able to get it started. But if I were to get a pressure filled 5000 psi gauge off eBay, would that be a 1/4" NPT thread? That seams about the size of the fitting I took off the top of the HPOP reservoir to check that there was fluid in there.
It looks like the OBDLink MX BT adapter doesn't work with an iPhone.
Harley
867.309 - I also don't think it's a HPOP problem since the truck runs and accelerates fine in those instances where I am able to get it started. But if I were to get a pressure filled 5000 psi gauge off eBay, would that be a 1/4" NPT thread? That seams about the size of the fitting I took off the top of the HPOP reservoir to check that there was fluid in there.
It looks like the OBDLink MX BT adapter doesn't work with an iPhone.
Harley
#29
Buddy - I haven't tried plugging in the block heater. It was in the 80's here the last time I tried to start it, so I don't think it's a glow plug problem. Or would that tell me something else?
867.309 - I also don't think it's a HPOP problem since the truck runs and accelerates fine in those instances where I am able to get it started. But if I were to get a pressure filled 5000 psi gauge off eBay, would that be a 1/4" NPT thread? That seams about the size of the fitting I took off the top of the HPOP reservoir to check that there was fluid in there.
It looks like the OBDLink MX BT adapter doesn't work with an iPhone.
Harley
867.309 - I also don't think it's a HPOP problem since the truck runs and accelerates fine in those instances where I am able to get it started. But if I were to get a pressure filled 5000 psi gauge off eBay, would that be a 1/4" NPT thread? That seams about the size of the fitting I took off the top of the HPOP reservoir to check that there was fluid in there.
It looks like the OBDLink MX BT adapter doesn't work with an iPhone.
Harley
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I'm assuming he said plug in your block heater because psd have a problem with cold oil with worn injectors. Wouldnt help at 86° though. At 60° mine had slow starts. 20 or 30 it was no start without the block heater. Puttinng a gauge on your resiviour would show you lpop psi to the resivior. Haven't read up on how to mechanically test hpop but I'm assuming it would be off of the lines going from hpop to the head. They are -6jic I think. My best guess is to cap off one of the lines, then attach the other to a hose running to your gauge. Again I'm not sure if this is the right procedure, but that would show you the exact pressure hpop is making. Or you could take one of the 5/8 plugs off the top of the head and get a reading there. #8 or 10 orb. I think