Non-servicing dealerships
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Non-servicing dealerships
I've seen that many of y'all get phenomenal deals flying/driving to buy your SD, and that makes me wonder about something.
Have seen some say they have days of waiting for service. Which could be large city/busy dealers.
But it has made me think of the Ford dealership I literally grew up in where my stepdad was GM, and our owned Honda powersports dealership where I also sold and was a certified mechanic.
Back then, if you didn't buy from us you would get service when we got to it... generally after our buying customers did.
Non-buying warranty work always went (still goes) to the wayyyyy bottom of the pile. And we all know actual repair work is more profitable than warranty work.
Personally I deal with a very local dealership with whom I have relationships with everyone from the GM, SM, F&I man, etc.
They get me in an out in short order, unless it is a big deal. In which case they normally take care of me and get the repair done ASAP.
Yes... we all know Ford shops are generally obligated to do the work, but dealers have quite a bit of latitude.
Am curious to know how this works out for those of you who buy other places and then have work done "locally".
Have seen some say they have days of waiting for service. Which could be large city/busy dealers.
But it has made me think of the Ford dealership I literally grew up in where my stepdad was GM, and our owned Honda powersports dealership where I also sold and was a certified mechanic.
Back then, if you didn't buy from us you would get service when we got to it... generally after our buying customers did.
Non-buying warranty work always went (still goes) to the wayyyyy bottom of the pile. And we all know actual repair work is more profitable than warranty work.
Personally I deal with a very local dealership with whom I have relationships with everyone from the GM, SM, F&I man, etc.
They get me in an out in short order, unless it is a big deal. In which case they normally take care of me and get the repair done ASAP.
Yes... we all know Ford shops are generally obligated to do the work, but dealers have quite a bit of latitude.
Am curious to know how this works out for those of you who buy other places and then have work done "locally".
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I buy my Fords from a dealership I will never use for service. Mainly because of their service manager. The manager sets the tone for the department and this guy is an idiot. Most of their techs have the same “I could care less attitude”.
The dealer I use for service, I would never buy a vehicle from because they want to wear you down and waste your time to make a few extra dollars. But their service department is great.
As preveiously stated, if a dealer puts my non-purchased vehicle to the bottom of their service appts and makes me wait, I will never use them for anything.
Besides, it’s the service department that makes the real money in the dealership, not the sales department. Any dealer that does not realize this is not worth letting them touch my vehicles.
The dealer I use for service, I would never buy a vehicle from because they want to wear you down and waste your time to make a few extra dollars. But their service department is great.
As preveiously stated, if a dealer puts my non-purchased vehicle to the bottom of their service appts and makes me wait, I will never use them for anything.
Besides, it’s the service department that makes the real money in the dealership, not the sales department. Any dealer that does not realize this is not worth letting them touch my vehicles.
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I fly out to MI for all my vehicles and drive them home over a 2 day period. I will never buy from my servicing dealer because of being lied straight to my face from the Sales Manager.
But I have been having my vehicles serviced there for 9 years and they take care of me on that end. Typically takes 3 days to get in.
And not all dealers get a lower warranty rate.. my dealer makes the same rate whether warranty or non warranty.
But I have been having my vehicles serviced there for 9 years and they take care of me on that end. Typically takes 3 days to get in.
And not all dealers get a lower warranty rate.. my dealer makes the same rate whether warranty or non warranty.
#6
my father used to buy at one dealer and get service at another
after useing that same service dealer myself a few times I found them questionable too many times
I then started going to a "former" ford dealership that is now a storage lot and "extra" service department for a local ford dealer that owns many dealerships for all makes
best ford service I've found yet is this one dealer that has taken down all the ford signs except the service dept one
they no longer even sell cars at that dealership
and usually it's not very busy - never had an issue with them taking to long to get to work on my truck
- is also my parts source - they still have their parts dept though I suspect it's part of the overflow storage deal like the new trucks lined up out on the lot
toronto area , scarborough , sheppard ave e and conllins rd - for locals to me reading
after useing that same service dealer myself a few times I found them questionable too many times
I then started going to a "former" ford dealership that is now a storage lot and "extra" service department for a local ford dealer that owns many dealerships for all makes
best ford service I've found yet is this one dealer that has taken down all the ford signs except the service dept one
they no longer even sell cars at that dealership
and usually it's not very busy - never had an issue with them taking to long to get to work on my truck
- is also my parts source - they still have their parts dept though I suspect it's part of the overflow storage deal like the new trucks lined up out on the lot
toronto area , scarborough , sheppard ave e and conllins rd - for locals to me reading
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I bought both of my SD's from out-of-town dealerships and have had them serviced at a local dealer. I don't turn wrenches and don't know jack s*&% about these things mechanically. Don't want to or need to. You know the old saying: "Can't teach an old dog new tricks." Applies in spades here. I am looking for convenience and good service and so far they have met that criteria.
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Bought mine at one dealership about an hourish away. My local dealership is not getting the service business, I drive about 45 minutes for service in the completely opposite direction after the local shop screwed me on a Ford Focus with a bad transmission in 2013/2014. If I have occasion to be in the area of the selling dealership I will pop in for an oil change. It's the same distance as the dealer I do use, but it is in a location that I almost never need to be near, so it isn't efficient.
And on my way down south for the winter, I drop it at Ourisman for a going over.
And on my way down south for the winter, I drop it at Ourisman for a going over.
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I happen to use the service at the same place I purchased my 2017 F250. However in the past I've purchased and had service at different dealers. I doubt that the service center even knows whether or not I purchased the vehicle there (I remove the dealer's license plate frame and never let them put a decal on). Same with my Z06 Corvette - purchased one place and serviced at another. Either the service is good or not. I've also never had a problem with like-new vehicles that I purchased used or when I've moved (I'm retired Air Force and moved a lot) and using the same service as where purchased isn't possible.
My dad lives in a rural area and like to use the local dealer for purchase and service - he thinks if makes a difference - I'm not sure that is does.
Jim
My dad lives in a rural area and like to use the local dealer for purchase and service - he thinks if makes a difference - I'm not sure that is does.
Jim
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Yes, and no. Have bought one for the more "exotic" vehicles I've owned, mainly to protect against I can't fix myself. I've not gotten one for less fancy work vehicles. That said, I'll add two things: 1. I've never bought an ESP at the purchasing dealer, always bought online for about half what the purchasing dealer wanted, and 2. I've never had to use an ESP.
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1. Ford limits the hourly labor rate to something less than what the dealer charges to the public.
2. Ford specifies the allowable labor time which may be less than what the dealer would charge otherwise.
3. The dealer makes no profit on any replacement parts.
4. The dealer does not get reimbursed for the time spent processing the claim.
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A few things come to my mind that may or may not be valid;
1. Ford limits the hourly labor rate to something less than what the dealer charges to the public.
2. Ford specifies the allowable labor time which may be less than what the dealer would charge otherwise.
3. The dealer makes no profit on any replacement parts.
4. The dealer does not get reimbursed for the time spent processing the claim.
1. Ford limits the hourly labor rate to something less than what the dealer charges to the public.
2. Ford specifies the allowable labor time which may be less than what the dealer would charge otherwise.
3. The dealer makes no profit on any replacement parts.
4. The dealer does not get reimbursed for the time spent processing the claim.