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Yeah, GCWR is the number that will tell you what your truck plus trailer can weigh. But it won't be listed on your truck for some reason. You'll have to refer to Ford's website for that, but it will depend on your engine and rear end ratio.
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GVWR is the truck itself with all the things that weigh down the truck: people, fuel, trailer's tongue weight, etc.
Oddly enough, the rear axle rating and the front axle weight rating combined are almost always much more than the truck's GVWR. I have always been one of those scofflaws who pays little attention to the GVWR. As long as my rear axle and my front axle weights are within spec, I don't sweat it. But for most of us down in the south, DOT inspections and such are a rarity for personal trucks.
GCWR is the truck and trailer combined. That will be far more than 10,000 lbs.
Oddly enough, the rear axle rating and the front axle weight rating combined are almost always much more than the truck's GVWR. I have always been one of those scofflaws who pays little attention to the GVWR. As long as my rear axle and my front axle weights are within spec, I don't sweat it. But for most of us down in the south, DOT inspections and such are a rarity for personal trucks.
GCWR is the truck and trailer combined. That will be far more than 10,000 lbs.
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The gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR), or gross vehicle mass (GVM) is the maximum operating weight/mass of a vehicle as specified by the manufacturer including the vehicle's chassis, body, engine, engine fluids, fuel, accessories, driver, passengers and cargo but excluding that of any trailers. Tell us more about your truck, what your planning to tow, and any other questions so we can help you better.
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When you go looking at the toy haulers, look at the GROSS weight rating on the trailer, not the empty weight. The gross weight of the trailer and the accompanying pin weight get over the ratings on the 250 pretty fast! And my 250 was a gasser, so therefore I had a lot more wiggle room that if it was a diesel due to the truck itself being lighter.
Best of luck in your quest!
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well, with a toy hauler, when loaded with toys the pin weight actually goes down a little. When the garage is loaded with a couple thousand pounds it helps. But even with that being said, when the pin weight is between 3 and 4 thousand pounds it is not enough. There are toy haulers out there that have the axles mounted a little forward, thus have a low pin weight so a SRW can handle them just fine, but one still has to know how to get everything set up properly.
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OP. You’ll find lots of great information on the towing 5th wheel section. Also you can get some great info from “let’s see you towing” (I think that the title).
I, like others went to a 350 diesel for the extra payload and increased GWR & GCRW. ( and power obviously) If you go with a 350 diesel I’d advise to get the derated; 11,400# GVWR as this could save you extra registration and gods know what else for having an L plate. I think it’s a huge ripoff however I guess there has to be a cutoff somewhere.
Good luck.
I, like others went to a 350 diesel for the extra payload and increased GWR & GCRW. ( and power obviously) If you go with a 350 diesel I’d advise to get the derated; 11,400# GVWR as this could save you extra registration and gods know what else for having an L plate. I think it’s a huge ripoff however I guess there has to be a cutoff somewhere.
Good luck.