I'm new to the forum. I tried searching above subject but I can't find it.

I had a 2015 Ford F250 Lariat with a camper package which I lost due to an accident 2 weeks ago I want to buy a new 2018 F350 Lariat with no camper package because this is the only one available for now. If I order a truck with a camper package, it will take 8 to 12 weeks according to the dealer and I need a truck asap.

I have 2014 Lance 850 slide in camper with a wet weight of 2500 lbs. Do I still need a camper package? If I dont have one, will this void my truck warranty? I would like to hear your thoughts. Thank you.

George

 

The camper package consists of the heaviest available rear spring pack, if not already so equipped due to other options or packages, and a rear sway bar, if not already included as part of another package.

So heaviest spring pack and a sway bar. And look at the yellow sticker in the door jamb, as other options and packages will take away from your payload. You can have a camper package and not have enough payload left to carry one.

So the way I would approach it is to make sure the yellow payload sticker gives you the payload you need with some cushion, and add the sway bar if it does not have one. The camper package has a sway bar due to the high center of gravity in a camper load.

As long as the payload sticker has more capacity than you need, I can't see there being a warranty issue. Nor could there be one from adding an OEM sway bar AFAICS.

 

Thank you very much for your reply.

 

be careful about your vin hitting GVWR 15K LBS. most insurance companies have a 14.5K lbs GVWR limit for non commercial policies.

 

Does the camper okg also include things like Tires, wheels, heavier cooling and electrical? Just curious.

 

 

No. Just adds sway bar and upgrades rear spring if not already included with other options.

 

fyi,

f 250/350

there are 3 different front springs
there are 4 different rear springs.

the camper package has the strongest of the rear and the second strongest of the front.

my opinion.. if you have a slide in camper.. you need the camper package.

the strongest front.. is for camper AND snow plow packages.

if your dealer can not provide this information. you are at the Wrong dealership.
my opinion.

I do not know about the 2018.. but above is for 2011 to 2016.

 

George,

I totally agree with Chuck on this one! I had an '08 F-250 Diesel with a Lance 845 on it and I now have a 2015 with an Eagle Cap EC850 and I'm running Camper Packages on both trucks. As a matter of fact, I changed out the Ford rear sway bars on both trucks to Hellwig sway bars.

 

I would get the air bags. Either run them manual which each then can be adjusted independently and is a fairly expensive option, You can also add a dual-path compressor which also makes them independently adjustable, but will more than double your investment. My 2017 F350 was constantly bottoming out with a 2000# pin weight from the 5er before I added the bags. My AirLift bags & WirelessAir compressor should be arriving tomorrow for my F450.

 

If your 17' F350 couldnt handle 2k of pin weight which is less than HALF its available payload. Them rear springs had a major flaw and adding airbags isnt the correct solution

 

I'd buy the truck I wanted and add leafs as necessary. Aftermarket AALs are usually questionable because they're short (easier to ship, cheaper to manufacture) and heavily arched. A short spring with lots of arch is not good for weight capacity or ride quality - or longevity as the arch eventually relaxes to match that of the pack.

Source some JY packs and pull what you want from them. I always start by adding one under the main leaf running as close as possible eye to eye. This often means taking the main leaf from the donor packs and cutting the eyes off until it's the length I want. Taper/chamfer the cut ends a bit and don't worry about friction pads if the pack is so equipped - they don't do much. Add another one further down the pack if you wish.

Get some new bolts for leaf pack center pins, order up some new u-bolts from a local spring shop or Alcan, and you're done.

Also I've never tried adding to the upper overloads but it might be possible, although I'd question just how much those right angle brackets on the frame can take (I suppose you could gusset or otherwise reinforce them)

No, none of this will be reflected in your door jamb stickers but it'll show in your sphincter tension ratio when you're driving down mountain passes and not wallowing like a small ship on choppy seas

 

That is 2/3rds of the payload of a 2017 6.7 CCSB PSD FX4 Platinum. About 2in of squat on the load-up, but frequently bottomed out on the bumps.

 

Heres my 2004 F350 last spring loaded with two pallets of fresh rolled tall fescue sod. Operator told me it was 3800lb and change when I paid. Truck went down about 4" YET I still had plenty of clearance before the bump stops would hit. Drove 18miles home and never hit the rubber axle stops. Yous have seriously weak springs if 2k makes your trucks bottom out

 

you forgot to mention you have a custom leaf pack added to your truck.....why did you do that.....thought so.