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The front axle, brakes, and tires are all very heavy on the F450. Only 5 people and a dog in the cab, firewood in the front of the bed, no aftermarket weight. I think I have over 5000# of my 9250# truck weight on the front when empty.
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The limiting factor will be the payload. I am towing a 12,000 lb. 5th wheel with my 2017 F350 CCSB 6.7 4x4 and only have ~400 lbs of available payload left.
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https://www.fleet.ford.com/resources...de_r6_Nov8.pdf
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A little foresight in what you plan to tow will help avoid these situations. RV dealers will tell you anything to make a sale like sure your F-250 can handle this 15K pound toyhauler. Then you find out the truck's payload is way overloaded. All truck manufacturers like to brag about how much they can tow so I put them in the same category as the RV dealers. Any heavy 5th wheel in the 15 to 16K pound range puts you in dually territory. I did the same thing last year and upgraded to a DRW F-350 and couldn't be happier when towing our 16K pound 5'er.
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A little foresight in what you plan to tow will help avoid these situations. RV dealers will tell you anything to make a sale like sure your F-250 can handle this 15K pound toyhauler. Then you find out the truck's payload is way overloaded. All truck manufacturers like to brag about how much they can tow so I put them in the same category as the RV dealers. Any heavy 5th wheel in the 15 to 16K pound range puts you in dually territory. I did the same thing last year and upgraded to a DRW F-350 and couldn't be happier when towing our 16K pound 5'er.
i did the same thing, only I asked the RV salesman.......”Won’t I have to upgrade to a dually to pull that thing?” Answer was like, oh no, not necessary!! LOL
I didn’t pull very long and realized that he was just another full of chit salesman!! Found my dually and haven’t looked back!
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Agreed. Unless the OP ordered the reduced GVWR package, then his tow rating should be over 20k lbs. Also, the OEM 5th wheel hitch is only rated at 18,000, but if that is the case he could replace that with a heavier hitch.
The limiting factor will be the payload. I am towing a 12,000 lb. 5th wheel with my 2017 F350 CCSB 6.7 4x4 and only have ~400 lbs of available payload left.
(page 21)
https://www.fleet.ford.com/resources...de_r6_Nov8.pdf
This is what I found on the factory prep package
Gooseneck Hitch Kit This Gooseneck Hitch Ball has a Gross Trailer Weight Rating of 27,500 lbs. on a 2-5/16" ball and 33,000 lbs. with a 3" ball. The kit also includes two cast-steel safety chain tie-down hooks and a nylon storage bag
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Reps intended.....but have to spread them around more!!
i did the same thing, only I asked the RV salesman.......”Won’t I have to upgrade to a dually to pull that thing?” Answer was like, oh no, not necessary!! LOL
I didn’t pull very long and realized that he was just another full of chit salesman!! Found my dually and haven’t looked back!
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Where do you get 18,000 on the hitch? you say it as fact, then a doubt in the 2 part of the sentence.
This is what I found on the factory prep package
Gooseneck Hitch Kit This Gooseneck Hitch Ball has a Gross Trailer Weight Rating of 27,500 lbs. on a 2-5/16" ball and 33,000 lbs. with a 3" ball. The kit also includes two cast-steel safety chain tie-down hooks and a nylon storage bag
This is what I found on the factory prep package
Gooseneck Hitch Kit This Gooseneck Hitch Ball has a Gross Trailer Weight Rating of 27,500 lbs. on a 2-5/16" ball and 33,000 lbs. with a 3" ball. The kit also includes two cast-steel safety chain tie-down hooks and a nylon storage bag
Cargo Master
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Ford in their marketing department.....they must reducing it on paper for the SRW 5th wheel, cause the same prep for the GN is 25K. And DRW are rated 25K for both GN and 5th wheel.
Do they really have 2-3 different plates? Because I only ever see one package and they list only one package, I think it's 55w.
Do they really have 2-3 different plates? Because I only ever see one package and they list only one package, I think it's 55w.
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My front axle was a little lighter without the firewood in the bed. My fresh water tank was also empty in my trailer, but that shouldn't have impacted the front axle weight.
