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Old Jun 4, 2018 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 2009kr
You'll likely hit GVW/payload before tow limits. Here is my rig at full load (full water tank, 300# of firewood) with a mere 15.5k trailer. My F450 is 1000# heavier than a SRW F350. I have 13,480# on my truck. With a SRW, that'd be 12,480, or 1000# over the F350's GVWR.

Curious on how you got so much front axle weigh, did you have your cab full of stuff , aftermarket bumper??

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Old Jun 4, 2018 | 09:02 PM
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all light duty trucks have disappointing tow capabilitys, just get a semi truck and end the drama, then you wont be towing at max capacity on pins and needles the whole time.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2018 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 1olddogtwo
Curious on how you got so much front axle weigh, did you have your cab full of stuff , aftermarket bumper??

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The front axle, brakes, and tires are all very heavy on the F450. Only 5 people and a dog in the cab, firewood in the front of the bed, no aftermarket weight. I think I have over 5000# of my 9250# truck weight on the front when empty.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2018 | 09:12 PM
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Old Jun 4, 2018 | 09:15 PM
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That's my 550, even at 46-49K my front axle weight only has been 56-5700 hundred

Wet weight is 10500 with 100 tank full, almost a 50/50 split on axles.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2018 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by UGA33
No 350 SRW 6.7 is rated for less than 20k on the neck/5th wheel unless it is ordered with the 10k GVW package.
Agreed. Unless the OP ordered the reduced GVWR package, then his tow rating should be over 20k lbs. Also, the OEM 5th wheel hitch is only rated at 18,000, but if that is the case he could replace that with a heavier hitch.

The limiting factor will be the payload. I am towing a 12,000 lb. 5th wheel with my 2017 F350 CCSB 6.7 4x4 and only have ~400 lbs of available payload left.

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https://www.fleet.ford.com/resources...de_r6_Nov8.pdf
 
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Old Jun 5, 2018 | 07:24 AM
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A little foresight in what you plan to tow will help avoid these situations. RV dealers will tell you anything to make a sale like sure your F-250 can handle this 15K pound toyhauler. Then you find out the truck's payload is way overloaded. All truck manufacturers like to brag about how much they can tow so I put them in the same category as the RV dealers. Any heavy 5th wheel in the 15 to 16K pound range puts you in dually territory. I did the same thing last year and upgraded to a DRW F-350 and couldn't be happier when towing our 16K pound 5'er.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2018 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Paw's 150 Lariat
A little foresight in what you plan to tow will help avoid these situations. RV dealers will tell you anything to make a sale like sure your F-250 can handle this 15K pound toyhauler. Then you find out the truck's payload is way overloaded. All truck manufacturers like to brag about how much they can tow so I put them in the same category as the RV dealers. Any heavy 5th wheel in the 15 to 16K pound range puts you in dually territory. I did the same thing last year and upgraded to a DRW F-350 and couldn't be happier when towing our 16K pound 5'er.
Reps intended.....but have to spread them around more!!
i did the same thing, only I asked the RV salesman.......”Won’t I have to upgrade to a dually to pull that thing?” Answer was like, oh no, not necessary!! LOL
I didn’t pull very long and realized that he was just another full of chit salesman!! Found my dually and haven’t looked back!
 
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Old Jun 5, 2018 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by mtnguy


Agreed. Unless the OP ordered the reduced GVWR package, then his tow rating should be over 20k lbs. Also, the OEM 5th wheel hitch is only rated at 18,000, but if that is the case he could replace that with a heavier hitch.

The limiting factor will be the payload. I am towing a 12,000 lb. 5th wheel with my 2017 F350 CCSB 6.7 4x4 and only have ~400 lbs of available payload left.

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https://www.fleet.ford.com/resources...de_r6_Nov8.pdf
Where do you get 18,000 on the hitch? you say it as fact, then a doubt in the 2 part of the sentence.

This is what I found on the factory prep package

Gooseneck Hitch Kit This Gooseneck Hitch Ball has a Gross Trailer Weight Rating of 27,500 lbs. on a 2-5/16" ball and 33,000 lbs. with a 3" ball. The kit also includes two cast-steel safety chain tie-down hooks and a nylon storage bag
 
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Old Jun 5, 2018 | 08:55 AM
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For comparison GN add's little to front axle weight.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2018 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 99150

Reps intended.....but have to spread them around more!!
i did the same thing, only I asked the RV salesman.......”Won’t I have to upgrade to a dually to pull that thing?” Answer was like, oh no, not necessary!! LOL
I didn’t pull very long and realized that he was just another full of chit salesman!! Found my dually and haven’t looked back!
Like putting a tandem load on a single axle tractor!! Trucking terminology but works as well as towing an RV. Use the correct tow vehicle guys please...it can save your life and others. Better to have more towing capacity then not enough.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2018 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 1olddogtwo
Where do you get 18,000 on the hitch? you say it as fact, then a doubt in the 2 part of the sentence.

This is what I found on the factory prep package

Gooseneck Hitch Kit This Gooseneck Hitch Ball has a Gross Trailer Weight Rating of 27,500 lbs. on a 2-5/16" ball and 33,000 lbs. with a 3" ball. The kit also includes two cast-steel safety chain tie-down hooks and a nylon storage bag
All Ford literature rates the SRW 5th wheel hitch at 18k. Im assuming that is keep us from saying, "well the hitch says 27,500. Guess the truck can do it."
 
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Old Jun 5, 2018 | 10:39 AM
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Old Jun 5, 2018 | 11:23 AM
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Ford in their marketing department.....they must reducing it on paper for the SRW 5th wheel, cause the same prep for the GN is 25K. And DRW are rated 25K for both GN and 5th wheel.

Do they really have 2-3 different plates? Because I only ever see one package and they list only one package, I think it's 55w.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2018 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 1olddogtwo
That's my 550, even at 46-49K my front axle weight only has been 56-5700 hundred

Wet weight is 10500 with 100 tank full, almost a 50/50 split on axles.
Best guess is that your wheelbase is different or you have more weight behind the rear axle.

My front axle was a little lighter without the firewood in the bed. My fresh water tank was also empty in my trailer, but that shouldn't have impacted the front axle weight.
 
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