New timing chains, turbos
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New timing chains, turbos
Took my truck, 2014 F150 XLT 4x4 SCAB with HDPP, to the dealer to have the plugs replaced. Getting ready for a long RV trip. Also mentioned that it was hesitating slightly on take off, plus the noise that might be related to timing chains, and specifically mentioned the TSB that is out concerning timing chains.
Little while later this morning I get a call. He says they could not duplicate the hesitation, but he mentioned getting some Codes, plus some TSB's concerning both the timing chain and the turbos. He said they would order and replace the timing chains and the turbos. I hadn't noticed any problems with the turbos. All that said, since the Premium ESP will cover all the work, it doesn't bother me any.
Has anyone else had problems with their turbos, or had them replaced?
Little while later this morning I get a call. He says they could not duplicate the hesitation, but he mentioned getting some Codes, plus some TSB's concerning both the timing chain and the turbos. He said they would order and replace the timing chains and the turbos. I hadn't noticed any problems with the turbos. All that said, since the Premium ESP will cover all the work, it doesn't bother me any.
Has anyone else had problems with their turbos, or had them replaced?
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Interesting...that's the first I've heard of turbos being replaced at the same time. Of course I don't know what they did to diagnose, but it almost sounds like they were taking your warranty for a ride.
How many miles are on the truck? Did they mention if it had any trouble codes?
How many miles are on the truck? Did they mention if it had any trouble codes?
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I have 52,000+ miles on the truck. It surprised me too when turbos were mentioned. I don't know much about engines, but nothing had seemed amiss concerning the turbos. He did say or at least implied there were TSB's on both timing chains, which I'm well aware of from reading this board and the F150 board, and the turbos and indicated they had found several codes. He didn't say what codes, or code numbers he found.
Of course whether the dealer is taking the Ford ESP warranty for a ride or not is between the dealer, Ford, and the ESP underwriter. I should be on the hook for only the $100 deductible.
Of course whether the dealer is taking the Ford ESP warranty for a ride or not is between the dealer, Ford, and the ESP underwriter. I should be on the hook for only the $100 deductible.
Interesting...that's the first I've heard of turbos being replaced at the same time. Of course I don't know what they did to diagnose, but it almost sounds like they were taking your warranty for a ride.
How many miles are on the truck? Did they mention if it had any trouble codes?
How many miles are on the truck? Did they mention if it had any trouble codes?
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Thanks. Hadn't thought of that. So if my local Ford dealer is taking anyone for a ride, it's Ford.
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My friend has a 2013 ecoboost. 2 summers ago his turbos blew out the wastegates. He was on a summer-long RV trip with his family. He kept getting a turbo underboost code. Upon return from his almost 10,000 mile RV trip, Ford replaced both turbos under warranty.
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By the way, under normal circumstances, should the timing chain and new turbos get some break in time before putting them under load towing a travel trailer?
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Nope, no need to worry about that. The only real need for break-in is with a gearset like a differential. No need to worry about that for the components that were replaced in your case, neither have wear surfaces that need to be broken in. Hook 'er up and go for it!
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I have a new question for anyone who has had their timing chain replaced.
Got a call early this afternoon from the dealer. They needed the key to unlock the rear lift window of the cap that's on the truck. Seems as if they need to pull the cap back so they can pull the entire cab off the frame. They said this was the only way to get at and change the timing chain. Granted I don't know much about fixing modern engines, but is it really necessary to take the cab off the chassis to fix the timing chain? They can't just pull an engine out of the area under the hood any longer?
I know this repair bill has to be costing Ford a bloody fortune.
Got a call early this afternoon from the dealer. They needed the key to unlock the rear lift window of the cap that's on the truck. Seems as if they need to pull the cap back so they can pull the entire cab off the frame. They said this was the only way to get at and change the timing chain. Granted I don't know much about fixing modern engines, but is it really necessary to take the cab off the chassis to fix the timing chain? They can't just pull an engine out of the area under the hood any longer?
I know this repair bill has to be costing Ford a bloody fortune.
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OK. Got my truck back this afternoon by 3:30 pm as promised. The bill has 1.5 pages worth of replacement parts and info on what they did. They found the following codes, P0234 and P0239. After putting pressure on the waste gate actuators and found they stuck and didn't operate smoothly. So they replaced both turbo chargers, gaskets and other hardware. Noise on startups was verified and is described in TSB 16-0027. They also verified that my engine fell under the umbrella of TSB 16-0027. So they replaced 4 variable camshaft timing units, primary timing chain and all necessary hardware and gaskets.
The service writer said if this had been out of pocket, it wold have been between $5500 and $6000.
The service writer said if this had been out of pocket, it wold have been between $5500 and $6000.
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I tried to add a signature to my posts, but I'm apparently not smart enough to do so. Just in case anyone is wondering what I drive this is it. 2014 F150 XLT, 3.5L Ecoboost, SCAB, 4x4, Max Tow, HDPP, 3.73 gears, LT245/75R17 LRE tires (with the 7 lugs), and an 8' bed. The cargo capacity of it is 2,286#
OK. Got my truck back this afternoon by 3:30 pm as promised. The bill has 1.5 pages worth of replacement parts and info on what they did. They found the following codes, P0234 and P0239. After putting pressure on the waste gate actuators and found they stuck and didn't operate smoothly. So they replaced both turbo chargers, gaskets and other hardware. Noise on startups was verified and is described in TSB 16-0027. They also verified that my engine fell under the umbrella of TSB 16-0027. So they replaced 4 variable camshaft timing units, primary timing chain and all necessary hardware and gaskets.
The service writer said if this had been out of pocket, it wold have been between $5500 and $6000.
The service writer said if this had been out of pocket, it wold have been between $5500 and $6000.