F150 5.4 V8 3V Timing Chain Replacement
I heard it runs many miles without a issue other than the noise. So, I just drove it as is then suddenly I heard something dragging against the chain or gears a month ago. Sounded something like ta da da da da.. for few sec then stopped. This happened twice. When I heard the noise I decided I have waited enough.
I figured the chain guide has broken and the chain is dragging against it.
Been looking into this issue and saw few videos on how to repair, so I was confident enough to try myself.
I highly recommend watching FordTechMakuloco's 4 parts video before working on the chain.
Part 1
Luckily I have a cousin who owns the mechanic shop and I was able to get a space to work on the truck and borrow some air tools.
All of this can be done with hand tools except for crank shaft bolt which will be near impossible to remove without a impact wrench. There is no good way to hold the pulley.
In my case, removing fan clutch was also challenging because it was over tightened by the mechanic worked on the truck before. Got it off after several tries with air hammer tool.
It is recommended to disconnect AC lines and remove radiator hose, but I was able to do it without removing them. But this does make things much harder.
Upper radiator hose gets in the way when removing the fan shroud, and AC lines gets in the way working on the right side.
AC line and transmission dipstick was in the way which made removing right side valve cover very difficult.
After fishing the cover several times, I managed to get it out.
Upon removal of the cover, I checked for slack in the chain and the right side chain did not have any tension. Very loose chain.
Left side was pretty easy. There are plenty of room and the only thing that gets in the way is vacuum supply line, which is a steel tube, which you cannot install without removing intake plenum if removed by accident. But this can be rotated out of the way. Just don't push it toward back of the engine.
Right side chain was tight without any slack.
Some roller followers has to be removed with crank shaft key at 6 o'clock position to release tension on the shaft. Detailed instruction is available in a service manual or just watch FordTechMakuloco's videos.
Right side chain has been hitting the valve cover. Luckily my chain did not jump at least not enough to cause check engine light to come on or have driveablity issues.
Heavy build up on the front cover. Took me over an hour cleaning both front cover and valve covers. Forgot to take pictures after cleaning, but I managed to clean it pretty good using a oven cleaner (suggested by my cousin). Only down side with a oven cleaner is that it is acidic and it will oxidize aluminum pretty fast. Not too big of a deal, but will leave dull gray finish instead of shiny aluminum. It will look like an old aluminum part.
The chain has been dragging against front cover as well.
The chain was dragging against crank shaft position tone ring as well. Not enough damage to cause any issue, so using it as is.
Right side upper chain guide is missing a big chunk at the lower section around the bolt. Upper bolt was the only thing that was holding this guide. I found the broken piece between the oil pan and the oil pump. Small pieces are still missing, but did not want to through to trouble of removing oil pan and I figured that are not enough pieces missing to clog pick up screen. The missing pieces are small enough to come out through the drain plug and may already have come out during oil change.
Left side guide was also broken, but was only missing small pieces around upper mounting bolt hole. Big piece was still in the place.
Both left and right side tensioner's seal was flattened and lost elasticity. Right side actually blew out in one corner. From what I have heard, this blown tensioner seal is what causes oil pressure issue, which leads to cam phaser failure.
The timing chain kit I bought was from Cloyes and it was made in China. Included tensioner was better design than the original. It has rubber gasket on a below molded sealing surface. Still a little worried about the tensioner failing since it was made in China.
Installed new Ford genuine cam pahsors and cloyes timing components per instruction. Also replaced oil pump with Melling M340. While M340 is the OE replacement, higher pressure M360 is recommended, but I figured M340 will do just fine and it has steel backing plate instead of OE aluminum backing plate which is known to flex and leak at high RPM. Another reason for my choice was Amazon had a open box M340 for only $62.25, which is almost half the price of NIB M340 or M360. If getting new in the box pump, M360 is the same price so, go for M360 or better yet go for M360HV (high volume).
Removing and installing requires cam phaser locking tool and it is just a bar with gear tooth to hold cam phaser in place. The tool is OTC 567614 or OTC 6681, which is a tool set. This is way over priced at $60 for just a piece of metal. I found cheaper copy of the tool on eBay for $30. I did not find any quality issue.
My truck had right side VCT solenoid already replaced by previous owner and it had Dorman part. Left side still had the original VCT solenoid, but the upper screen had separated. I think they are still in a good working order, but replaced them with Ford genuine parts anyway.
New VCT solenoids installed.
Removing and installing roller followers requires a valve spring compressor specifically made for this engine. OTC 6684 is the tool, but it is way over priced. Cheapest one I found was $117. I got the exact same copy of the tool made by OEMTools for $60. I have never actually seen OTC tool myself, so I don't know if the quality is the same, but worked fine for me.
A magnetic pick-up tool is very helpful while removing/installing roller followers because there aren't much room under the cam to hold roller followers with finger.
I replaced lash adjusters and roller followers as well. You can get them individually, but the whole set is cheaper if replacing all of them. Part number is M-6529-3V and the set cost me $256 on eBay. Sellers on Amazon was charging that much for just roller followers (aka rocker arm) without lash adjusters. It is not necessary to replace them, but I ordered a set because I cannot know their condition until removing the valve cover and getting them from a local dealer will probably cost me at least twice as much. All roller followers and lash adjusters I removed were is good condition, but replaced them anyway since I got the parts and all of them has to come out in order to time the engine. If reinstalling old roller followers, they must go back to the same place they came out from.
Installing a roller follower for #4 cylinder exhaust on the right inside wasn't easy. AC accumulator was so close, I did not have enough room for to valve spring compressor tool. Had remove accumulator off the mounting studs and push up and back to again 1/4" which was just enough room for the tool.
Rest of the roller followers are easy to install, but very tedious process. Make sure to hold valve stem down while compressing the spring. Some valves will stick and if the spring compresses with valve stuck, keepers will fall off and the valve will fall into the cylinder. Then you have to pull the head. I did have few valves sticking as well, I pushed them down before the keepers fall off.
I changed motor oil to replace contaminated oil during the timing chain replacement.
Everything put back together except for the crank position sensor. This will prevent engine from starting and allows you to prime the oil pump and other oil passages. Crank the engine until oil pressure gauge comes up then crank a little more. It will take a while if you replaced oil pump like I did.
Connect crank position sensor back then start engine before putting the fan back on. Easier to check for any possible leaks this way. Just don't run it too long since you don't have a fan.
I also had to replace a idler pulley and a tensioner pulley because their bearing has failed.
Everything put back together. If you broke any trim clips while removing, they are available at Autozone or Advance Auto Parts. The hole size is 1/4"
Took me 2.5 days to complete the job. Probably would been able to do it in 2 days if I was working inside garage, but I was out in the sun.
The engine runs quiet except for the fuel injector noises. Has better low end torque now.
Hopefully the repair will last at least another 100k.
In the end, I replaced Timing chain, timing chain tensioners and guides, cam phasers, VCT solenoids, oil pump, lash adjusters, roller followers, and spark plugs.
All of the parts cost me about $1300 and about $90 worth of special tools.
Could have gotten away with $1000 if I did not replace unnecessary parts.
Thanks for the information and insights Byoung Oh.
Will be much easier to work on if you remove AC condenser and the radiator, which I kinda regret not doing. Make sure to buy a 8mm flex head gear wrench if you will be replacing oil pump without dropping the pan. I did not have one and had a hack of time removing and tightening one of the bolt. What I did was use 8mm nut driver bit for a impact driver and then turn it with 1/4" flex head gear wrench which I had.
A week after timing chain job was done, my transmission failed. Lost 1st and 2nd gear. Ended up putting a re-manufactured transmission. Not sure if it is related to what I may have done during timing chain job without knowing.
I still have a ticking noise after everything was done, but have not been able to figure out source of the noise. I think it might be exhaust manifold leaking cause I heard it louder under the driver side wheel well toward rear. However, I was not able to find any cracks or evidence of gasket leaking. For now, I have decided to just live with it.
None of the manifold studs are broken or rusted because previous owner replaced the engine probably few years ago. But, then their mechanic may not have done such a good job installing it in the first place.
This noise was there before I worked on the engine and there is no change in noise even after the engine gets hot.
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Will be much easier to work on if you remove AC condenser and the radiator, which I kinda regret not doing. Make sure to buy a 8mm flex head gear wrench if you will be replacing oil pump without dropping the pan. I did not have one and had a hack of time removing and tightening one of the bolt. What I did was use 8mm nut driver bit for a impact driver and then turn it with 1/4" flex head gear wrench which I had.
A week after timing chain job was done, my transmission failed. Lost 1st and 2nd gear. Ended up putting a re-manufactured transmission. Not sure if it is related to what I may have done during timing chain job without knowing.
I still have a ticking noise after everything was done, but have not been able to figure out source of the noise. I think it might be exhaust manifold leaking cause I heard it louder under the driver side wheel well toward rear. However, I was not able to find any cracks or evidence of gasket leaking. For now, I have decided to just live with it.
A point you brought up about the AC has been a concern. I know the AC system should be evacuated of the coolant and oil, and left sealed under vacuum. I do not have the equipment for that so I am considering taking it to a shop for that part of the job.
What did you do?
What did you do?
To disconnect AC lines, you should have a shop evacuate and recover the refrigerant.Disconnected lines cannot be sealed under vacuum. Just tape it or plug it to keep derbies and excess moisture getting inside. Ideally you should replace filter/dryer as well when the line is disconnected, but usually works fine without replacing them. In case of our trucks, that is part of the accumulator and whole accumulator has to be changed.
Replace any O-rings at the disconnects with new one to make sure you don't have a leak. Pull vacuum and recharge the system. It might be cheaper to do this yourself. Harborfreight has a descent vacuum pump for $85 and manifold gauge for $60. You could sell them back on eBay or craigslist when done.

3 cans of 12oz R134a is $20 on eBay.
The leak is at the flange between exhaust manifold and catalytic converters. There are no gasket or any other sealing material for this joint. I have tried cleaning and tightening the joint several times with no luck. Any idea on how to fix this leak?
I'm thinking replacing studs on the manifold with ones that has threads all the way will make it possible to tighten the joint more and might fix the problem. But, I'm also worried that it may actually damage the flange from over tightening.
Leaks are toward bottom of the flange. I did not even need soapy water as it was blowing like air gun.
I am not so sure if ticking noise I'm hearing is from the leak. There were no change in noise when I put a rag on the joint. But, then I could not really cover the whole joint without burning myself. It is tight in there.
The same behavior can be seen in another video by FordTechMakuloco, around 4:00 minute mark:
My new Ford phasers are making the same noise! Are they defective? I know that I don't want to put the truck back together and then have the phaser come apart, that could cause serious engine damage!
Thanks for any insight...





