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2006 F250 ,,,no programmer,basically stock execpt for Egr delete .
truck shut down while driving today.I have torque pro app.
Below is key on readings
I have checked for codes and the only one I'm getting is B 1357 .Not sure if that related to my problem

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​​​image below is while cranking.shouldnt my Hpop be reading much higher than this
 

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Are the cranking values for ICP and IPR the exact same as the KOEO readings? They are in the two links posted.
 
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Just went back and took more pics.
below is what I have,cranking or not nothing changes
 
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Even w/ a stuck open IPR, you should see a few hundred psi when cranking.

Is your oil pressure on the dash registering when you crank? Have you tried starting w/ the ICP sensor disconnected?

Might be a badly failed STC fitting. Has it ever been replaced/updated?
 
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Originally Posted by bismic
Even w/ a stuck open IPR, you should see a few hundred psi when cranking.

Is your oil pressure on the dash registering when you crank? Have you tried starting w/ the ICP sensor disconnected?

Might be a badly failed STC fitting. Has it ever been replaced/updated?
tried with ICP unplugged ,,oil pressure gauge doesn't change when cranking

Bismic,,,Icp and Ipr are same cranking or KOEO
Also Haven't checked the STC Fitting but I thought 06 and later models didnt have on

something else ,,In first photo taken when truck quit IPR value was 83.9.After sitting for a while it is 14.7
 
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05 and up have the failure prone STC fitting.
If you don't see the dash oil pressure gauge come up when cranking, you may have a base oil pressure issue. Remove the oil filter cap and have someone crank while you watch to see if it fills up (and how fast it fills up). The best way to crank is with the starter solenoid wire disconnected and jumpered to the battery positive terminal (passenger side) - with the ignition key in the off position. Or you can pull the FICM relay and crank w/ the key (but that still powers the glow plugs).

The IPR will start out at 14.7 or there abouts until you try to start. Then the duty cycle will increase (closing the IPR valve) until you get sufficient high pressure oil pressure. It (the IPR duty cycle) peaks out at 84% (max duty cycle).
 
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Thanks for the replies so far,,,I have been reading up on the stc fitting.If mine is bad would I have an oil leak or does it simply bypass and run back into oil pan
 
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The HPOP and STC fitting are basically internal to the engine, any leak from the STC fitting will end up in the crankcase ...... unless it cracks the rear cover when the STC fitting fails.

I would still recommend verifying lube oil pressure and flow.
 
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Originally Posted by bismic
The HPOP and STC fitting are basically internal to the engine, any leak from the STC fitting will end up in the crankcase ...... unless it cracks the rear cover when the STC fitting fails.

I would still recommend verifying lube oil pressure an flow.
I removed oil filter the morning .when I cranked engine it immediately began filling the reservoir.at rate it was filling it would probably run it over in just a few seconds cranking.
 
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Good. That eliminates any low pressure oil supply issues.
Sounds like an STC fitting failure is a strong possibility
 
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Pulled turbo today to replace the stc fitting .found this while in the process.

Is this considered normal problems or has something "gone thru" this cause the hole in screen
 
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tore truck down to find had a Bad IPR valve.replaced it today( OEM original part) and I still have not start..When cranking Im only getting about 50 pounds from Hpop.If I unplug ICP sensor then I have around 1300 psi when cranking but still no start.
Anyone have any ideas.
 
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Probably the most common place that a foreign object comes from (when that the IPR screen is torn), is the HPOP. Sounds like you might have a bad one.

It is always a good idea to do an air test after the repairs and before putting the valve covers back on. The best way for the air test is with the IPR tool (IMO).

You can rig up your own w. the cheap amazon fitting below.
https://www.amazon.com/TamerX-Test-Fitting-Powerstroke-2003-2010/dp/B071G1SSWW/ref=sr_1_2?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1527374460&sr=1-2&keywords=TAMERX+ipr+air+test+tool https://www.amazon.com/TamerX-Test-Fitting-Powerstroke-2003-2010/dp/B071G1SSWW/ref=sr_1_2?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1527374460&sr=1-2&keywords=TAMERX+ipr+air+test+tool
or get it w/ the hose and air fitting
https://www.amazon.com/Powerstroke-High-Pressure-System-SPECIAL/dp/B0771QN34P/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1527374157&sr=8-7&keywords=ipr+air+test+tool https://www.amazon.com/Powerstroke-High-Pressure-System-SPECIAL/dp/B0771QN34P/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1527374157&sr=8-7&keywords=ipr+air+test+tool

The 1300 psig ICP value (w/ the ICP unplugged) was just a default value due to the sensor being unplugged. You actually have low pressure, so it would not start.
 
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Old 05-28-2018, 02:53 PM
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I made a pressure test fitting from my old IPR fitting.When I connected air pressure I had a massive leak under drivers side valve pan.

I pulled the oil rail and stand pipes and couldn't find anything wrong.
Went ahead and pulled injectors and think I found some bad o-rings on the number 4 and 6 cylinder.
Going to replace all tomorrow and see if than fixes my problem
Two of the Injectors had white O-rings and the other two the white looks like it has worn off.
 
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How did you make sure that the opening to drain the oil (to the pan) from the IPR was blocked off?
 


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