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Thanks guys. I will give it another try today. Going to loosen at the turbo and move around. The brand is diamond eye performance. It seems like quality stuff.
 
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Originally Posted by tfunk88

I’m simply asking a question.

Do you ha e a link to the Magnaflow testing? I’d be interested in reading it.
That was 15 years ago, so no I don't. Lots of things have changed with the 6.0 since then. I beta tested a LOT of parts and a LOT of tunes to help get the 6.0 performance stuff to where it is now. Granny truck is tired (and retired) and all she does is haul grandkids now.
 
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Originally Posted by Maxium4x4
On the down side.... the 4 inch offers no benefit, the 3.5 helps with back pressure on the turbo which is necessary and performs better. Stock is 3 inch with a resonator for my 2003. If you want the 4 inch down to fit, you may have to hammer back the pinch welds on the cab to keep it from rubbing.
Nailed it! Bigger is not always better.
 
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What am I missing? How does more back pressure help the turbo?

I run 4" turbo back with no issues, running or fit. No firewall dents but it will hit the frame rail if not positioned right and sound like a bad hub bearing in a turn.
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Old 05-20-2018, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxium4x4
We did hours of testing, you have trade offs for each system. 4" is not wrong or right but to answer, the VGT performs better with back pressure.
Besides possible fitment issues do you recall what the other trade offs were with the 4” vs the 3.5”?
 
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Be it only short term, the 4" will offer a lower temp, not much, so you gain lower EGT for a short but turbo lag is the trade off on the lower end over a 3.5 which improves turbo spool up. I and several others, spent time on the DYNO when nothing was really available in the early days, the final decision is what makes you happy. My truck puzzled plenty of people at the time but I have an 03, which in turn seems to be the best year for me. I have probes before and after the turbo to see how it performed, you would be hard pressed to find anyone else who monitors the back side of a turbo.
 
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Originally Posted by Amicus
Thanks guys. I will give it another try today. Going to loosen at the turbo and move around. The brand is diamond eye performance. It seems like quality stuff.
Keep us updated and you will find what works, it can be frustrating when things rub. I had to shorten the mount near my T- Case because it would rub going around corners. Stuff like that drives you crazy. Mufflers are optional depending on age I have noticed.......
 
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Well, I think I got it done. Took a little playing around with it but got lines up with out touching any thing. Will know more tomorrow on my drive to work. Definitely sounds throaty. Thanks for all the help.
 
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Good to hear....
 
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Well, drove to work this morning 1hr at hwy speeds.
There was no obvious performance gains or loss that I could tell. I really did it to hopefully lower egt.
Im not really happy with it because of the extra noise. Not sure because it's up against the firewall or it's just the way a 4"down pipe sounds. I'll give it a few days and see what happens. I may reinstall the oem down pipe and go 4" from there.
 
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My 6.0 runs like a top with 3.5” DP and 4” straight from there. I’d ditch the 4” DP if it’s not fitting right, causing excessive noise and not lowering EGT much.
 
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Currently in a similar conundrum myself, after years of driving a 7.3 I'm really enjoying how quiet my 6.0 is and don't want to increase the in-cab noise. Currently my truck has a stock exhaust but looking into options, main duties will be some daily driving and occasional towing of 5-6k. I'm thinking 3.5" down pipe to 4" with some sort of a good quality muffler at this point, anyone with insight that would suggest I'm leaning the wrong way?
 
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There is no audible sound difference between the 3.5 and 4.0 downtube. If you are hearing any type of additional sound, its probably the installation that is to blame. The slightly larger size is not significant but will help slightly with your EGT. That's really all there is to it.
If your installing a new exhaust system, by all means go with the 4" downpipe.
 
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Originally Posted by AGE mechanic
There is no audible sound difference between the 3.5 and 4.0 downtube. If you are hearing any type of additional sound, its probably the installation that is to blame. The slightly larger size is not significant but will help slightly with your EGT. That's really all there is to it.
If your installing a new exhaust system, by all means go with the 4" downpipe.
Your probably right. I think it has to do with the back of the dp hitting the fire wall. But I just don't see any way around it. I'm kind of bummed out about it.
 
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Originally Posted by Amicus
Your probably right. I think it has to do with the back of the dp hitting the fire wall. But I just don't see any way around it. I'm kind of bummed out about it.
What brand downpipe do you have?
 


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