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05-05-2018, 06:54 AM
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2015 or 2017
First post although I have read a lot on these forums, I-am going to be converting into a “Ford” guy. I currently have a Tundra and looking at anything from a 2015-2017 F250 diesel. Right now I am talking with a guy who is selling a 2015 F250 Platinum with a factory lift and several add ones with 56k miles for $50-52k. Very nice looking truck however just the thought of spending that kind of money for a 3 year old truck has me questioning myself. I also have looked at some 2017 Lariats that are around the same price stock. What would your thoughts be, persue the 2015 or look at the 17’s. What are the pros and cons of the 15 & 17’s, I would like to hear from the owners of both, oyour likes and dislikes.
I've been reading a lot about issues between the different years but I really want someone to persuade me one way or another. I really like the newer look of the 17. My Tundra I bought new and it has 220k miles and I tow the boat a lot down to the keys and hate hearing the engine downshift all the time although I usually go at a good clip. My truck has had zero issues and looking for something that will be minimal maint.
thanks for listening to me.
Paul
I've been reading a lot about issues between the different years but I really want someone to persuade me one way or another. I really like the newer look of the 17. My Tundra I bought new and it has 220k miles and I tow the boat a lot down to the keys and hate hearing the engine downshift all the time although I usually go at a good clip. My truck has had zero issues and looking for something that will be minimal maint.
thanks for listening to me.
Paul
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05-05-2018, 07:23 AM
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Several others will give all sorts of advice about diesel versus gas. Pros & cons with each, so in that aspect, you ought to buy what you think is best for you ... or what you want for you. I wanted to merely ask about that 2015 you've looked at because I have no idea what a "factory lift" might be. Ford doesn't lift them. It may have been installed by a dealer, but that does not mean it's OEM. Me? I avoid any used truck which has been extensively modified ... and a lift or level falls in that category in my head.
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05-05-2018, 08:03 AM
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Personally, I wouldn't pay $50k for a three year old truck no matter what kind of extras it has. More than likely you can buy a newer truck, put the same extras on and still be under the price of the truck that already has them. Ford didn't offer a factory lift so I'm guessing it's either a dealer installed package or one from a customizer like Waldoch.
If you want all the extras the used truck has without the hassle of putting it together yourself then the '15 might be the way to go, but you're going to pay more going that route.
As for the '15 and '17 debate. I still kind of prefer the look of the '11-16 body style trucks because I just haven't warmed up to the look of the front end on the new ones. Plus the '15 is a proven design, the trans and engine are pretty much the same on the '17 but everything else is new.
If you want all the extras the used truck has without the hassle of putting it together yourself then the '15 might be the way to go, but you're going to pay more going that route.
As for the '15 and '17 debate. I still kind of prefer the look of the '11-16 body style trucks because I just haven't warmed up to the look of the front end on the new ones. Plus the '15 is a proven design, the trans and engine are pretty much the same on the '17 but everything else is new.
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05-05-2018, 08:51 AM
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I wouldn't touch a lifted truck over a stock truck. Coming from the Tundra you might think that lifting a solid front axle truck would be easy. But I've seen more lifting issues here than I did on the Titan forum. It's more complicated than I thought. (The Titan is also independent front suspension)
Given that the body panels on a '17+ truck will never rust, that would be the deciding factor. It was for me, and it's one reason why I waited for a '17 rather than buying a '16. The higher HP/TQ also helped.
Given that the body panels on a '17+ truck will never rust, that would be the deciding factor. It was for me, and it's one reason why I waited for a '17 rather than buying a '16. The higher HP/TQ also helped.
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05-05-2018, 10:58 AM
17 hands down. Also, a diesel needs to be a F350 or your payload will not be sufficient for your needs. Look carefully at some threads like what can I tow, you will see, as the diesel consumes an extra 1000 lbs of the GVW and a 250 is 10,000 GVW, you want a 350 for the GVW of 11,500 lbs.
ditto on the lifted truck, that takes away value in my opinion.
ditto on the lifted truck, that takes away value in my opinion.
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05-05-2018, 11:30 AM
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05-05-2018, 05:01 PM
I would recommend you drive the '15 and a '17 and both the gas and diesel and see what you think. That's what I did.
I had an '07 F350 CCLB 6.0, bought new. The '15 and '16 trucks were enough better, other than the motor, to justify buying a new truck when my '07 worked just fine. Then I drove a new '17, 6.7 and was ready to upgrade immediately.
The '17 trucks are a big improvement over the previous generation trucks in every way. And while the 6.2 is a good motor, the 6.7 in the '17+ trucks is truly amazing.
After I bought mine I started getting Car Guru ads for used 2017 SuperDuties at very attractive prices. If you are looking at a 3 year old Platinum for $50K, I was shopping new '17 Lariats for $60K.
I had an '07 F350 CCLB 6.0, bought new. The '15 and '16 trucks were enough better, other than the motor, to justify buying a new truck when my '07 worked just fine. Then I drove a new '17, 6.7 and was ready to upgrade immediately.
The '17 trucks are a big improvement over the previous generation trucks in every way. And while the 6.2 is a good motor, the 6.7 in the '17+ trucks is truly amazing.
After I bought mine I started getting Car Guru ads for used 2017 SuperDuties at very attractive prices. If you are looking at a 3 year old Platinum for $50K, I was shopping new '17 Lariats for $60K.
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05-05-2018, 05:16 PM
I agree with all of these folks except the common opinion about a 6.7 250. A-lot of people knock a diesel 250 because of the reduced payload due to the weight of the motor but, it makes for an excellently perfect road warrior. A 250 6.7 will pull a boat or a bumper-pull TT / toyhauler all-day-long and you’ll love it. Definitely check the 17-18’s out - you won’t regret it. I was in the exact same position as you.
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Thank you guys, you reaffirmed what I already knew, a 3 year old truck doesn’t make sense at that price. I am looking at a 17 leftover new Lariat for 56k or a 17 leftover Platinum for 66k. Unfortunately the Lariat doesn’t have some options I want so I just need to do pricing to see what makes sense. 66k right now doesn’t make sense to me but we will see
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05-05-2018, 09:54 PM
I agree with all of these folks except the common opinion about a 6.7 250. A-lot of people knock a diesel 250 because of the reduced payload due to the weight of the motor but, it makes for an excellently perfect road warrior. A 250 6.7 will pull a boat or a bumper-pull TT / toyhauler all-day-long and you’ll love it. Definitely check the 17-18’s out - you won’t regret it. I was in the exact same position as you.
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So just an update...Bought a ‘18 Lariat with a very well optioned truck today and was absolutely impressed and and still have a grin from ear to ear. I will be reading and contributing on my first diesel and what I encounter with pros and cons. So far I drove it home and it is awesome with so much more room than :y Tundra. Rides very smooth and without my radar detector noticed I was 85-90 on 95 so I had to keep looking at speedo. Like I said, the truck came very nicely equipped and with a tonnaue cover which I thought was going to be an added expense. All in all was a great buying experience in Delray Beach Florida if anybody is contemplating that dealership(btw I have no affiliation). PM for an particulars but I am extremely happy
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