T4/SXE vs. KC38R - Decision has been made...
#751
Lol OK, EGTs have nothing to do with it. Most of the good mufflers come in 4", I run a 51" Donaldson and resonator and they are a bitch to line up if you are running the staggered inlet/outlet muffler style on the stock system. The axle over section will not line up without cutting and welding. 4" systems usually allow for use of equal inlet/outlet mufflers opening up the options to guys who want REALLY quiet trucks like myself. Could never stand that 90* bend right behind the rear tire either.
Has exhaust size EVER proved to raise or lower EGTs in any instance?
Has exhaust size EVER proved to raise or lower EGTs in any instance?
#752
I have a hard time having a conversation with my wife no matter if the windows are up or down.
#755
I think I am going to install the MBPR. My plan is to use the CSD downpipe, then the flex pipe Sous recommended to the 4" MBPR. Ultimately I already own the new exhaust kit, it looks bad *** and I plan on doing injector upgrades when my stock injectors die. The 4" exhaust can't hurt, it looks much better than my rusty stock exhaust (which is the actual reason I got the MBPR) and maybe I can squeeze a few more horses out of the old girl when I get the injectors and a tune.
#756
If I were in your position and already had the MBRP kit on hand, I would do the same thing. No sense in spending half of what the exhaust kit cost to send it back.
I like my MBRP kit mates to the CSD down pipe very much. It sounds great, looks great and is pretty quiet. My wife and I can have a normal volume conversation at 65 mph with no problems hearing each other.
Good choice sir!
I like my MBRP kit mates to the CSD down pipe very much. It sounds great, looks great and is pretty quiet. My wife and I can have a normal volume conversation at 65 mph with no problems hearing each other.
Good choice sir!
#757
Good news on the GP's... Today it was 29 degrees since the fellas up north left the door open and chilled us southerners off a bit. I decided to test the GP's as it doesn't get much colder here in north GA. If it does, I usually set a fire in the house and stay inside. I gave the truck 40 seconds (timed on stop watch) to warm the GP's and cylinders up before turning the key to start. The truck started in about 1.5 seconds. I was counting as the truck was cranking and didn't make it to 2 Mississippi. No loping, no lugging or anything out of the ordinary except for a few seconds of minimal white smoke. I was expecting the smoke though due to the temperature of the engine and fuel.
Good news there for sure!
I loaded the truck with 942 lbs of landfill items to take to the landfill. This is stuff that is too big or heavy to go into the normal bin like construction waste from home upgrades, truck parts that don't fit well into the bin, an old wooden shed that we tore down, things of that nature. I knew it was 942 lbs because of the weigh out receipt that I received from the weigh station controller.
On the way to the landfill there are a couple of small hills. I was going 35 MPH in 5th gear intentionally lugging the truck up a hill to see what the temperatures would be for EGT's. They were dead on 500 degrees and dropped a bit as I crested the hill. The RPM of the engine was ~900, yes just below 1000. Rolling down the road in 4th gear at 45 MPH and ~1500 RPM the EGT's were at dead on 400 degrees.
Once I finish upgrading the 5th wheel with solar, we hope to take the camper out at that point and give her a shake down trip before our big trip in the spring. I should have some EGT's and performance results then. I am hoping in February sometime, but that will all depend on the progress made on the camper and the weather near the coast. Be that the east coast or the gulf coast.
Good news there for sure!
I loaded the truck with 942 lbs of landfill items to take to the landfill. This is stuff that is too big or heavy to go into the normal bin like construction waste from home upgrades, truck parts that don't fit well into the bin, an old wooden shed that we tore down, things of that nature. I knew it was 942 lbs because of the weigh out receipt that I received from the weigh station controller.
On the way to the landfill there are a couple of small hills. I was going 35 MPH in 5th gear intentionally lugging the truck up a hill to see what the temperatures would be for EGT's. They were dead on 500 degrees and dropped a bit as I crested the hill. The RPM of the engine was ~900, yes just below 1000. Rolling down the road in 4th gear at 45 MPH and ~1500 RPM the EGT's were at dead on 400 degrees.
Once I finish upgrading the 5th wheel with solar, we hope to take the camper out at that point and give her a shake down trip before our big trip in the spring. I should have some EGT's and performance results then. I am hoping in February sometime, but that will all depend on the progress made on the camper and the weather near the coast. Be that the east coast or the gulf coast.
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#763
Sous, I read through your thread and appreciate all the hard work and detail you have put into it and your truck. Thank you for that!!
In the process of understanding your goals and how to obtain them I guess I missed your expected rwhp/torque with the stock injectors/SXE setup. You do have my interest up. Are you expecting a modest rwhp and a fairly big torque number? Maybe similar to some of the smaller semi's (I think they are called class 8 trucks).
Reason I am asking is I lucked into a 2000 F250 7.3 4x4 SCLB with the ZF6 and 66k on the clock. Its going to be my work truck and will see a lot of towing for work plus pull my toyhauler at times. I was planning on injectors, turbo ect and worried about EGT's while towing. Your thread has given a lot to think about.
Thanks in advance!
In the process of understanding your goals and how to obtain them I guess I missed your expected rwhp/torque with the stock injectors/SXE setup. You do have my interest up. Are you expecting a modest rwhp and a fairly big torque number? Maybe similar to some of the smaller semi's (I think they are called class 8 trucks).
Reason I am asking is I lucked into a 2000 F250 7.3 4x4 SCLB with the ZF6 and 66k on the clock. Its going to be my work truck and will see a lot of towing for work plus pull my toyhauler at times. I was planning on injectors, turbo ect and worried about EGT's while towing. Your thread has given a lot to think about.
Thanks in advance!
#764
Sous, I read through your thread and appreciate all the hard work and detail you have put into it and your truck. Thank you for that!!
In the process of understanding your goals and how to obtain them I guess I missed your expected rwhp/torque with the stock injectors/SXE setup. You do have my interest up. Are you expecting a modest rwhp and a fairly big torque number? Maybe similar to some of the smaller semi's (I think they are called class 8 trucks).
Reason I am asking is I lucked into a 2000 F250 7.3 4x4 SCLB with the ZF6 and 66k on the clock. Its going to be my work truck and will see a lot of towing for work plus pull my toyhauler at times. I was planning on injectors, turbo ect and worried about EGT's while towing. Your thread has given a lot to think about.
Thanks in advance!
In the process of understanding your goals and how to obtain them I guess I missed your expected rwhp/torque with the stock injectors/SXE setup. You do have my interest up. Are you expecting a modest rwhp and a fairly big torque number? Maybe similar to some of the smaller semi's (I think they are called class 8 trucks).
Reason I am asking is I lucked into a 2000 F250 7.3 4x4 SCLB with the ZF6 and 66k on the clock. Its going to be my work truck and will see a lot of towing for work plus pull my toyhauler at times. I was planning on injectors, turbo ect and worried about EGT's while towing. Your thread has given a lot to think about.
Thanks in advance!
As for expected HP/TQ numbers, that is hard to say and a certain number was never really my goal. As you said, I am running stock injectors and there is only so much they can do. My goal for the truck was to build an efficient towing machine while maintaining the longevity and reliability of the 7.3.
I think I have done that with the SXE turbo. It is far more advanced than any drop in turbo and pushes more air at a lower boost pressure. The EGT's and performance level when towing is where my focus was. I believe that between the SXE, 1023 tunes and the overall health of the truck, it will do very well on even the steep grades.
The T4/SXE combo is a big investment up front. Although if you sell the take off parts... well, I am sure you saw my numbers listed earlier...
The SXE for me was an investment into the life of the truck and a way to enhance my towing ability.
#765
We need some towing reviews with the setup now that it is together. I am interested in the "lower" boost pressure statement. Earlier you stated that you easily hit 30psi boost. 30psi just sounds pretty high given the 64.5/73 size of the turbo. Whenever I've gone "bigger" my boost pressure always drops. Have talked to a few people that are S366/stock injectors that don't go over 24psi.