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Old Apr 30, 2018 | 10:02 PM
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Code 213, 311 help

Got a 1995 f150 4.9 4x4 manual trans swapped. I changed the wiring harness over to factory Manual harness(pcm, power distribution box, headlight, and powertrain harness). I've had 213 in my auto pcm, and 213 manual pcm. I've checked and my spout is definitely not open. I replaced my air pump because it broke and cracked, and still have 311 as well. I'm not sure if my distributed is bad, or my icm. I've had two different ICMs with the same 213 code. I checked my engine and injector harness and everything is good. KOEO 111 KOEO MEM 111 KOER 213, 311 is what I get. Im stuck what do I
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Old May 1, 2018 | 12:04 PM
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Do you have any symptoms? If not, you can also try clearing codes by using the jumper. To clear the codes allow the self test to begin then remove the jumper wire. Also assuming you know the engine needs to be at operating temp for proper KOER test. Sandy
 
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Old May 1, 2018 | 12:13 PM
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No CEL, starts right up every time. I hear some spark knock or detonation.while floored going up steep grades. I shift it at 3700 rpm. It feels like there is a lack of power and my mpg is lower than usual. (8-9 now as opposed to 12-13). I'm taking it to Ford dealership today for the recall cruise deactivation switch. Maybe I'll ask if they have a breakout box to diagnose it. Im wondering if its my distributer but I dont know how to test.
 
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Old May 1, 2018 | 12:15 PM
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I've also tried resetting the codes several times. While I was doing the harness my pcm was unplugged for at least 2 hours so I know it had to reset by then.
 
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Old May 1, 2018 | 12:21 PM
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To clear KOER codes I believe you must follow the bold print in my last post. Your symptom could be a timing issue. I would check that for sure.
 
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Old May 1, 2018 | 12:29 PM
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Warming the old girl up now. Got my scan tool and timing light ready to go.
 
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Old May 1, 2018 | 12:32 PM
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You pulled the spout correct?
 
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Old May 1, 2018 | 12:34 PM
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Not yet. Just started it up. It's about 125° now still in open loop.
 
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Originally Posted by sandymane
To clear KOER codes I believe you must follow the bold print in my last post.
Doing the above in Post# 2 will clear the Stored Codes from Continuous Memory. It will not clear any codes triggered from the KOER tests.
 
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Old May 1, 2018 | 01:05 PM
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Doing the above in Post# 2 will clear the Stored Codes from Continuous Memory. It will not clear any codes triggered from the KOER tests.
Thanks Randy. How do you clear the KOER codes? Sandy
 
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Old May 1, 2018 | 01:21 PM
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How do you clear the KOER codes? Sandy
Fix the problem that is flagged in the KOER tests
 
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So I cleared memory codes on my scanner, cleared stored codes, ran self test and unplugged spoutduring test, unplugged battery for 5 min, checked base timing, (Which was at 9°, set to 10°). I could see that my timing was steady with spout unplugged and when I plugged it in while running, the rpm would increase slightly for a second. On my scan tool which can read DCL live, I could see on my tool timing was alternating with spout unplugged but with my timing light it was steady. My timing was alternating the same on my scan tool with or without spout plugged in, while my timing light was showing different readings. Reran KOER and still have 213, 311.
 
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Old May 1, 2018 | 01:35 PM
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When you remove the spout the PCM is out of the loop. The 10* you set it at is your proper BASE TIMING. When you plug the spout back in the PCM takes over and adjust itself for your truck and its condition. The pcm will take some running for it to totally reset itself. Perhaps Randy can shed some light on the codes. His knowledge is far superior to mine.
 
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So to verify, the timing as measure with your timing light stays steady at ~10 BTDC with the SPOUT out?

And with the SPOUT in the timing is varying as measured with the timing light correct?
 
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So to verify, the timing as measure with your timing light stays steady at ~10 BTDC with the SPOUT out?

And with the SPOUT in the timing is varying as measured with the timing light correct?
Yes correct, that is what happens
 
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