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Old 04-17-2018, 10:53 PM
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My Lariat has the LED headlights. They are quite bright and I'm guessing I like them better than oncoming smaller cars do Has anyone heard anything about longevity? They came out in what, 2012? I bet they are expensive to replace.
 
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Old 04-17-2018, 10:59 PM
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They came out in 2015, trucks that have DRL lighting will have a shorter life. So far I don't think anyone on here has had to replace the lights yet. I know the lights are sold as an assembly at around 800.00 each.
 
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Old 04-18-2018, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by EB-Larry View Post
My Lariat has the LED headlights. They are quite bright and I'm guessing I like them better than oncoming smaller cars do Has anyone heard anything about longevity? They came out in what, 2012? I bet they are expensive to replace.
2015 was the first year for LED`s on the F150. The 2012 lights were HID/Projectors.

Yes, they are quite expensive compared to the halogens and to prolong longevity, I never have my DRL on. Also, to give you an idea of how expensive the LED`s are, if you purchase an ESP from Ford, the LED lighting is not included in the ESP and one has to purchase extra coverage from Ford to cover the LED lighting.

Kind of crazy when you think about it......The cost of an ESP from Ford and depending on which one is purchased, a new pair of LED headlights will exceed the cost of the entire policy or come very close to exceeding it if an 8 year ESP is purchased.
 
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Old 04-18-2018, 08:31 AM
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They came out in 2015, trucks that have DRL lighting will have a shorter life. So far I don't think anyone on here has had to replace the lights yet. I know the lights are sold as an assembly at around 800.00 each.
I'm also on another Ford forum and I have not heard of anyone replacing them on there either.
I'm sure that somewhere there is some random person who got a defective unit that failed...but I've not heard of a single one.
 
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Old 04-18-2018, 09:24 AM
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They came out in 2015, trucks that have DRL lighting will have a shorter life. So far I don't think anyone on here has had to replace the lights yet. I know the lights are sold as an assembly at around 800.00 each.
Just another reason not to go above a 501A Lariat IMO. The halogen's in my XLT are quite bright and will only cost me about $20 to replace.
 
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Old 04-18-2018, 09:38 AM
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Just another reason not to go above a 501A Lariat IMO. The halogen's in my XLT are quite bright and will only cost me about $20 to replace.
That's like saying the 4" radio is better than the 8" screen....but only because it costs less. With that logic, don't go above a base XL.

On a more helpful topic: The halogen headlights are bad. The LED headlights are an improvement over the halogens, but not fantastic by any means.
Have you replaced your bulbs? I saw a thread a while back about some better bulbs for the factory halogen headlights.
 
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Old 04-18-2018, 11:12 AM
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That's like saying the 4" radio is better than the 8" screen....but only because it costs less. With that logic, don't go above a base XL.

On a more helpful topic: The halogen headlights are bad. The LED headlights are an improvement over the halogens, but not fantastic by any means.
Have you replaced your bulbs? I saw a thread a while back about some better bulbs for the factory halogen headlights.
I don't follow your logic but anyway. The halogens are not bad. No, I have not replaced the factory bulbs. I re-aimed my headlights after the leveling kit and I can see just fine. I can say that Ford does not do a bang up job on headlight alignment.

As far as the LED headlights or taillights, from everything I've seen and read, it appears both have to be replaced as a unit. And at roughly 1K each, I'll stick with the halogens.
 
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Excellent point about alignment. I have said it before. The halogen headlights actually quite work very well if you take some time to align them. Ford aims them low.

After I leveled my truck I had to align them in order to keep from blinding others. I drive a lot at night. It took about 3 tries to find the sweet spot, the setting where I no longer got flashed and both beams were even.

I will say this. Aim is crucial. A little too high or a little too low and the performance is drastically reduced. Iím pleased with the light output now. Still using the factory bulbs.
 
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Old 04-18-2018, 12:17 PM
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I don't follow your logic but anyway. The halogens are not bad. No, I have not replaced the factory bulbs. ................And at roughly 1K each, I'll stick with the halogens.
The logic was that you said due to replacement cost of the LED housings, it was a reason to not go above a Lariat 501. My example of an XL was because it would have the least expensive components (radio, seats, anything not upgraded to a pricier version) if you ever needed to replace something.

The factory halogens are objectively fairly poor. If you were to experience properly aimed good or great headlights, you'd agree. That's sort of irrelevant, if you are happy with them, then you are happy with them.


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Excellent point about alignment. ........... Aim is crucial. .................Still using the factory bulbs.
Here is something for both of you, since you are still using the original factory bulbs. It's a post from another forum. It's not my post, I just think it might be helpful/useful for you when you do need to change your bulbs.
These are regular bulbs, not crummy import LED or HID retrofits.

Hey guys, just thought I'd post an easy bulb upgrade mod for our F150. Our truck uses a H11 bulb for low beam, 9005 for high beam & a 9140 for fogs. Now with a little modifying to the new high & low beam bulbs, you'll have double the light output from OEM replacement bulbs. It goes like this, replace your H11 with a H9 bulb, replace your 9005 with a 9011 & take your 9005 bulbs & put them as your fog light bulbs. Here's why:
Stock H11 = 1,350 Lumens
Replacement H9 = 2,100 Lumens
Stock 9005 = 1,700 Lumens
Replacement 9011 = 2,350 Lumens
Stock 9140 = 600 Lumens
Replace with your 9005 = 1,700 Lumens
These are all basic OEM replacement bulbs by Philips. You can pick them up off of Amazon for about $50-$60. I'm not going into detail, just Google H11 to H9 Mod & 9005 to 9011 Mod. Some might say you could possibly melt your fog light housing using the 9005 bulb, I'll be the test subject since no one has tried this in the new fog light housings yet. You could always upgrade from a 9140 to a 9145 if you wanted for the fogs.
I just wanna say the difference in light output is like day & night literally, & all from stock replacement bulbs. You're going from 3,050 total lumen output on high beam to 4,450.....that's a massive leap up in light output. Low beam output goes from 1,950 to 3,800.....that's more than your old high beam output. You will literally never need high beams again. I've been running mine for about 2 weeks now with no problem. I think the fog light housings can take the 9005 bulbs. The older F150's with the rectangle fog lights could take the 9005 bulbs, when they switched to round fogs they would melt or deform the housing when using 9005 bulbs. Now the housing is rectangular again but so far so good.
 
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Old 04-18-2018, 03:49 PM
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Thanks for that. While aim is important, crucial in fact, better bulbs can do nothing but make them better. I’ll probably give this a try she nce it”s relatively inexpensive and easy to do.
 
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Originally Posted by ford390gashog View Post
They came out in 2015, trucks that have DRL lighting will have a shorter life. So far I don't think anyone on here has had to replace the lights yet. I know the lights are sold as an assembly at around 800.00 each.
Not necessarily. When the headlights are in DRL mode there is a resister switched inline to reduce the voltage a little bit to the headlights. Considering that I go for years ata time for a $15 or $20 part, I'm not going to lose sleep about longevity.

BTW - I think the halogens on our XLT are fantastic. Maybe it's just that I set a low bar?
 
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Halogen upgrade

Kingofwylietx,Thank You very much for the Info on the H11 toH9 and the 9005 to 9011
The price on Amazon is not bad about 50 bucks to do both they have a higher wattage
and higher Lumens,Looking on here LED are out of my price range this is a Great alternative.
P/S Google did a great how to Video with a slight modification.
 

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There was a post here a while back from a vendor about the effect of just throwing a brighter bulb in the mix. Unless the lens's and reflectors are aimed properly, throwing a brighter light down the road doesn't help anyone. Especially on coming traffic. Headlights are way more complicated than just lumens.

And as Glue Guy said, I think the OEM halogens are more than capable and I will stick with them.

Hint: For those of you that don't think they work worth a damn, try adjusting them as they were meant to be. I think you'll be surprised.
 
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Old 04-18-2018, 07:13 PM
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I'm glad to hear there is no record on this board of the LEDs going out so far. I didn't even realize the 502A package included them until I drove for the first time at night. The 2007 Expedition I traded in on this truck had halogens and I was never very impressed by them. The wife's CRV has halogens and it lit up the road much better. The LEDs in this truck are much better than the Expedition or the Honda.
 
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Old 04-18-2018, 09:06 PM
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There was a post here a while back from a vendor about the effect of just throwing a brighter bulb in the mix. Unless the lens's and reflectors are aimed properly, throwing a brighter light down the road doesn't help anyone. Especially on coming traffic. Headlights are way more complicated than just lumens.
You are absolutely correct. Kudos to you for being one of the few that even think about it. Iíve given up on telling people itís a bad idea to install LED or HID retrofits. Normally, people shouldnít change bulb types just to have a brighter bulb.

In this case, the bulb filament placement and dimensions are still correct for the factory reflector.
 
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