Steering Stabilizer: Dual, Single, or not worth it?
#16
04-07-2018, 06:34 PM
Stock wheels are indeed 7” wide. I had some 10 wides that I ran for a bit, but took em off because they made the truck look like crap, and they were in pretty bad shape. They did handle right much better than the stock wheels, which is why I’m looking pretty hard at buying some 10 wides at the moment. My theory is with a stabilizer and 10 wides, the truck oughta handle pretty good for a leaf sprung truck with wide wheels and tires lol.
Just realized that I never said in my original post that I had already run some 10 wide wheels before, lol my bad.
Just realized that I never said in my original post that I had already run some 10 wide wheels before, lol my bad.
#17
04-07-2018, 06:40 PM
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#18
04-07-2018, 06:48 PM
I would get the rim/tire combo fixed first. But also I think a SS will probably still help since the tires are a bit taller than stock (and heavier). So a SS will help them stay in the desired direction.
But a SS will not do anything to prevent the tires from rolling under the rims due to side forces because the geometry is outside of what the tires were designed for.
But a SS will not do anything to prevent the tires from rolling under the rims due to side forces because the geometry is outside of what the tires were designed for.
#19
04-07-2018, 07:24 PM
#20
04-07-2018, 08:06 PM
I’ll have to agree that I’d be looking for the root of the problem and not trying to mask it with a steering stabilizer. Could cause you bigger issues down the road.
And timmyboy, I totally agree, I absolutely can’t stand the look of huge wheels and small tires. Or even huge wheels with big tires... I like more tire than wheel.
And timmyboy, I totally agree, I absolutely can’t stand the look of huge wheels and small tires. Or even huge wheels with big tires... I like more tire than wheel.
#21
04-07-2018, 09:09 PM
https://westtexasoffroad.wixsite.com...hydro-steering
The Redhead and a SS do not even come close and you may save a bit of money.
If someone is dead set on the Redhead, I would go with the dual stabilizer so that you have a choice between running one or two.
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04-07-2018, 11:04 PM
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#23
04-08-2018, 06:46 AM
{cracking knuckles} Oohhh do I have this tee shirt. I tried shocks. I got all my front end parts to 100%. I tried tires and air pressure. There are two items that made the front end feel like a whole different truck, to the point where my wife (as a passenger) really noticed:
Front end springs. If you have the type of springs with the gap in them, or the gap between bump stops is less than 3 to 3 1/2" (I was 2 1/2", now I'm 4 1/2"), then the front is riding harsher than necessary. It wasn't cheap to replace the springs, because it requires a front end alignment, and many shops don't know how to align our trucks. I have had the same set of tires on the front end of my 4X4 for over two years without rotating them (about 40K miles), and they have no significant uneven wear. I had to go out and find an alignment shop that knows what they are doing with our Jurassic trucks.
Redhead steering box. I won't say anything at all about it here, because the before and after videos say it all:
Before:
Later that day, after the Redhead install:
Front end springs. If you have the type of springs with the gap in them, or the gap between bump stops is less than 3 to 3 1/2" (I was 2 1/2", now I'm 4 1/2"), then the front is riding harsher than necessary. It wasn't cheap to replace the springs, because it requires a front end alignment, and many shops don't know how to align our trucks. I have had the same set of tires on the front end of my 4X4 for over two years without rotating them (about 40K miles), and they have no significant uneven wear. I had to go out and find an alignment shop that knows what they are doing with our Jurassic trucks.
Redhead steering box. I won't say anything at all about it here, because the before and after videos say it all:
Before:
Later that day, after the Redhead install:
#24
04-08-2018, 11:48 AM
For starters, I just want to say thanks to everyone for the input. I have looked into the ram assist steering, however, I go off-road through fields and such quite a bit on the farm, and really don’t want to risk snagging a hose. I know that it probably wouldn’t happen, but better to be safe than sorry.
Secondly, I have found a used set of 16x10 Mickey Thompson classic 2s for sale near me that I might pick up if the price is right. Anyone know the difference between them and the classic 3s? All I could find was the classic 3s had a higher load rating by about 300 pounds. The wheels also have some Goodyear load range D tires on them, so I might run around on those tires for a little to see if they ride better than my toyos.
As far as a steering box goes, I’m pretty sure the redhead would be an improvement over my stock box, however, I don’t have nearly as much play as your truck did with the old steering box tugly. I also replaced my old front leaf springs with x-codes from SD truck springs about 8 months ago mainly to use as a leveling kit along with my mini spring pack. But I did not get an alignment as I got all ball joints replaced and an alignment done about a year ago.
Personally, I attribute the rough ride to the tires and putting them on a much too skinny wheel. I found my old 265s that came on the truck when I bought it, and all they say for load rating is “standard load rating”. Not sure what that means, but they handled bumps a lot better than my toyos.
Secondly, I have found a used set of 16x10 Mickey Thompson classic 2s for sale near me that I might pick up if the price is right. Anyone know the difference between them and the classic 3s? All I could find was the classic 3s had a higher load rating by about 300 pounds. The wheels also have some Goodyear load range D tires on them, so I might run around on those tires for a little to see if they ride better than my toyos.
As far as a steering box goes, I’m pretty sure the redhead would be an improvement over my stock box, however, I don’t have nearly as much play as your truck did with the old steering box tugly. I also replaced my old front leaf springs with x-codes from SD truck springs about 8 months ago mainly to use as a leveling kit along with my mini spring pack. But I did not get an alignment as I got all ball joints replaced and an alignment done about a year ago.
Personally, I attribute the rough ride to the tires and putting them on a much too skinny wheel. I found my old 265s that came on the truck when I bought it, and all they say for load rating is “standard load rating”. Not sure what that means, but they handled bumps a lot better than my toyos.
#25
04-08-2018, 12:24 PM
is there something besides toe-in that needs adjustment that i don't know about? i guess you could adjust caster with shims, but that isn't necessary 99.9% of the time
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04-08-2018, 08:49 PM