Correct 352 Engine Finishes
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Here's another good detail item for the outside of the right hand engine valve cover. The Crankcase Ventilation System decal. Says thru 1965 but I know it applies to 1966 as well, at least.
https://www.macsautoparts.com/ford_m...tion-ford.html
Chad
https://www.macsautoparts.com/ford_m...tion-ford.html
Chad
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Rich's truck shows you most of what you want to know, except yours won't have a sticker on the breather/oil cap. It is still debated whether the inner fenders, rad support, battery tray, etc should be gloss, semi-gloss, satin or something else. My vote goes to gloss because I had an original truck that had a lot of very shiny black paint under the hood. However, different assembly plants might have done different things, just as they occasionally did two-tone paint jobs slightly differently.
Eric
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Flex fan doesn't seem like it would be original. Mine are all solid blades on my trucks but I know AZ can run a bit hot there so the flex might work quite a lot better.
Do you still have the 1965 with the COM? The transmission fill tube seems mighty long compared to the one I have and an NOS tube, also. Just seems like it is bent different, too.
EDIT: I see 1965 uses a different transmission oil filler tube - whew! - that makes sense.
1965 F100/250 352 C/M - C5TZ-7A228-B - 27 1/2" developed length - includes nut - on your truck
or
1966/67 F100/250 352 C/M - C6TZ-7A228-E - on my truck. MPC doesn't say how long so I'll throw a tape measure on mine just for future reference for anyone that might want to know.
Chad
Do you still have the 1965 with the COM? The transmission fill tube seems mighty long compared to the one I have and an NOS tube, also. Just seems like it is bent different, too.
EDIT: I see 1965 uses a different transmission oil filler tube - whew! - that makes sense.
1965 F100/250 352 C/M - C5TZ-7A228-B - 27 1/2" developed length - includes nut - on your truck
or
1966/67 F100/250 352 C/M - C6TZ-7A228-E - on my truck. MPC doesn't say how long so I'll throw a tape measure on mine just for future reference for anyone that might want to know.
Chad
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That's not the part number Rich - Ford parts didn't have a part number on them after something like 1956. That is the Engineering ID Number. Different than the part number. Lots of parts have the same thing going on.
Intake manifolds, being discussed in other threads, have the Engineering ID Number cast into them and is different than the part number assigned to that item.
Another example is the front timing chain covers are base part number 6019 but typically have a 6059 base Engineering ID Number.
Are the plugs in your firewall for where an A/C unit was plumbed? That seems like a common spot.
Chad
Intake manifolds, being discussed in other threads, have the Engineering ID Number cast into them and is different than the part number assigned to that item.
Another example is the front timing chain covers are base part number 6019 but typically have a 6059 base Engineering ID Number.
Are the plugs in your firewall for where an A/C unit was plumbed? That seems like a common spot.
Chad
I learned something new today about part numbers, thanks.
Yes that is the A/C hoses came though the firewall. I just plugged them incase I ever re-install.
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You can see the 1966/67 tube is quite a lot shorter - I'm getting a total of about 20" long for just the tube and then on the installed tube about 22" from floor to top including the dipstick handle itself.
Must have been the bean counters figuring out a way to save a few bucks. Also must have made the dipstick itself significantly shorter and less likely to bend or break.
I dig the pictures of the fire truck. Radiator hose clamps are same style as the fuel tank to filler pipe hose, which I've seen on a few other very original trucks. Heater hose clamps are same style as PCV valve hose clamps. Any shots looking from the passengers side?
Do you imagine the inline fuel filter is original or was that maybe added? I know the 352 uses a hard line from the fuel pump to carb.
I also see the 2 unique green clips on the cowl lip for the windshield washer hose.
Chad
Must have been the bean counters figuring out a way to save a few bucks. Also must have made the dipstick itself significantly shorter and less likely to bend or break.
I dig the pictures of the fire truck. Radiator hose clamps are same style as the fuel tank to filler pipe hose, which I've seen on a few other very original trucks. Heater hose clamps are same style as PCV valve hose clamps. Any shots looking from the passengers side?
Do you imagine the inline fuel filter is original or was that maybe added? I know the 352 uses a hard line from the fuel pump to carb.
I also see the 2 unique green clips on the cowl lip for the windshield washer hose.
Chad
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No part numbers marked on parts after 1956, just casting or ID engineering numbers, when applicable.
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Flex fan doesn't seem like it would be original. Mine are all solid blades on my trucks but I know AZ can run a bit hot there so the flex might work quite a lot better.
Do you still have the 1965 with the COM? The transmission fill tube seems mighty long compared to the one I have and an NOS tube, also. Just seems like it is bent different, too.
EDIT: I see 1965 uses a different transmission oil filler tube - whew! - that makes sense.
1965 F100/250 352 C/M - C5TZ-7A228-B - 27 1/2" developed length - includes nut - on your truck
or
1966/67 F100/250 352 C/M - C6TZ-7A228-E - on my truck. MPC doesn't say how long so I'll throw a tape measure on mine just for future reference for anyone that might want to know.
Chad
Do you still have the 1965 with the COM? The transmission fill tube seems mighty long compared to the one I have and an NOS tube, also. Just seems like it is bent different, too.
EDIT: I see 1965 uses a different transmission oil filler tube - whew! - that makes sense.
1965 F100/250 352 C/M - C5TZ-7A228-B - 27 1/2" developed length - includes nut - on your truck
or
1966/67 F100/250 352 C/M - C6TZ-7A228-E - on my truck. MPC doesn't say how long so I'll throw a tape measure on mine just for future reference for anyone that might want to know.
Chad
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You can see the 1966/67 tube is quite a lot shorter - I'm getting a total of about 20" long for just the tube and then on the installed tube about 22" from floor to top including the dipstick handle itself.
Must have been the bean counters figuring out a way to save a few bucks. Also must have made the dipstick itself significantly shorter and less likely to bend or break.
I dig the pictures of the fire truck. Radiator hose clamps are same style as the fuel tank to filler pipe hose, which I've seen on a few other very original trucks. Heater hose clamps are same style as PCV valve hose clamps. Any shots looking from the passengers side?
Do you imagine the inline fuel filter is original or was that maybe added? I know the 352 uses a hard line from the fuel pump to carb.
I also see the 2 unique green clips on the cowl lip for the windshield washer hose.
Chad
Must have been the bean counters figuring out a way to save a few bucks. Also must have made the dipstick itself significantly shorter and less likely to bend or break.
I dig the pictures of the fire truck. Radiator hose clamps are same style as the fuel tank to filler pipe hose, which I've seen on a few other very original trucks. Heater hose clamps are same style as PCV valve hose clamps. Any shots looking from the passengers side?
Do you imagine the inline fuel filter is original or was that maybe added? I know the 352 uses a hard line from the fuel pump to carb.
I also see the 2 unique green clips on the cowl lip for the windshield washer hose.
Chad
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Hi guys, new to the forum.
Just picked up a 65 with what is supposed to be an original 352 under the hood. The motor is painted blue, like a 66 motor. According to VIN decoder its a March 1965 build from KC plant. Any way this can be correct? Any thoughts?
Just picked up a 65 with what is supposed to be an original 352 under the hood. The motor is painted blue, like a 66 motor. According to VIN decoder its a March 1965 build from KC plant. Any way this can be correct? Any thoughts?
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Just because it left the factory with a 352 doesn't mean it's what's there now. A lot can happen in 50+yrs. In '65, factory original 352 would be all black with gold valve covers. Post some pictures and we can figure out what's there now.
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1965: Black engine, gold valve covers: F100/350 352 // 289 2V installed in cars.
Some people are aware that for many years, Ford engines including the valve covers were painted Ford Corporate Blue, but most people are unaware this practice began in 1966.
So, since your engine was painted blue, someone painted it that color. It's also possible the FE engine was swapped from a 1966/76. And since it was blue, was so repainted.