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Old Apr 3, 2018 | 03:15 PM
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Transmission identification

Hey I was wondering what transmission I have I can get more pictures tomorrow but the cover throws me off it is a rectangle. The transmission is a three speed without OD and is a sideloader. Has the numbers 16 AF-7006-d on the case and a upside down B with I think it says 85 next to it. I'm thinking it is a t85 or a shaginaw? I'm trying to indentify so I can find gears and I am having a big problem with finding parts.

 
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It's the L/D Ford 3 Speed. Built by Borg Warner for Ford.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2018 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by scarfo
Hey I was wondering what transmission I have I can get more pictures tomorrow but the cover throws me off it is a rectangle. The transmission is a three speed without OD and is a sideloader. Has the numbers 16 AF-7006-d on the case and a upside down B with I think it says 85 next to it.

I'm thinking it is a T85 or a shaginaw? I'm trying to indentify so I can find gears and I am having a big problem with finding parts.
1948/52 F1; 1953/62 F100/250; 1949/62 Ford/Merc Passenger Cars: Ford 3 speed manual transmission with non syncromesh 1st gear.

T-85 = Borg Warner 3 speed manual non syncro 1st gear with overdrive .. not installed in F100's until 1965, used thru 1971. No such trans as a Shaginaw (Saginaw).
 
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Old Apr 3, 2018 | 06:04 PM
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Seems to be a ford 259 model and it has some similarities inside the trans from doing a more research.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2018 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by scarfo
Seems to be a ford 259 model and it has some similarities inside the trans from doing a more research.
What's a "Ford 259 model?" I've never heard of or seen any such thing and I've been looking up Ford parts in catalogs since 1962.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2018 | 04:29 PM
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What's a "Ford 259 model?" I've never heard of or seen any such thing and I've been looking up Ford parts in catalogs since 1962.
The after market decided on this moniker apparently, sort of like how the 221 255 260 289 and 302 magically some how became Windsors....
 
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Old Apr 4, 2018 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by matthewq4b
The after market decided on this moniker apparently, sort of like how the 221 255 260 289 and 302 magically some how became Windsors....
Fixed it for you...

225 is a mopar slant 6.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2018 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Fixed it for you...

225 is a mopar slant 6.

DOH Thanks ND fixed the orginal.post, slip of the finger The 255 not one one Fords better ideas, ranks right up there with the 3.8L V6 in the F Series. But try to find a 3.8L powered F100 now, they are as scarce as hens teeth.
 
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Originally Posted by matthewq4b
DOH Thanks ND fixed the orginal.post, slip of the finger The 255 not one one Fords better ideas, ranks right up there with the 3.8L V6 in the F Series.

But try to find a 3.8L powered F100 now, they are as scarce as hens teeth.
For a very good reason, the 3.8L V6 was a turd.
As anemic as the 255 was, the 3.8L V6 was worse. Parts and service guys called it the "miracle" engine.

If the valve cover gaskets didn't begin to leak before 20,000 miles, if the timing cover didn't rot out before 30,000 miles, if the head gaskets didn't blow before 40,000 miles, it was a miracle!

3.8L's also installed in...among other things: Thunderbird/Cougar; LTD/Marquis (Fox body mid sized); FWD Taurus/Sable and Continental Sedans.
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy

What's a "Ford 259 model?" I've never heard of or seen any such thing and I've been looking up Ford parts in catalogs since 1962.
Bill, it is a BW259. FORD used it 1955-62 in both PASS CAR and LT.

I have been trying to find info on fifties 3S Manual Trans and came across this post. It may have been answered since the original post, but this is what it is.






This photo shows a BW259 as compared to a T85 -



Basically -

BW-259 - LD
BW- T86 - MD (Toploader)
BW-T-85 (Car) and BW T-89 (LT) - HD
All came thru STD or OD
 
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Originally Posted by KULTULZ
Bill, it is a BW259. FORD used it 1955-62 in both PASS CAR and LT.
Where is the reference to BW 259? No see um.




 
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FORD did not reference it as BW Bill. All descriptions were FORD LD. The BW T-85/89 was an HD trans, w or w/o OD. The BW259 pictured above (take-out) must be a LT version due to yoke style..

Look at the side cover on the below Ill -




I don't have a TRUCK MPC beyond 1956 so I can't run with the BIG BOYS ...

 
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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 08:35 PM
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I stand corrected. They are described as BW in the later MPC -

The CAR MPC or SHOP MANUAL does not ID them as such.


 
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