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Old Mar 7, 2018 | 11:03 AM
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P0683 please help

So after doing my egr cooler and oil cooler my turuck start running really rough at idle at on acceleration. It was very noticeable at 1500 rpm doing about 45 once the overdrive kicked in. I thought an injector went out. So this morning on my way to the shop to diagnose which injector it was, the truck shut down on me. Now it's throwing P0683 gpcm. Would the symptoms I had be related to this? I tried to fire the truck back up and it won't crank. It's almost like it's frozen. An I looking at get a new gpcm and plugs?
 
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Old Mar 7, 2018 | 12:31 PM
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Closely inspect the harness from the GPCM to the PCM.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2018 | 01:35 PM
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I did that and also did an ohms test and it seems ok . Tested by disconnecting the harness that has the four wire coming from it on top of the valve cover. 1.0 to .09 is what I was getting. But when I test the big green and black plugs coming from the gpcm I don't get a reading on every terminal.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2018 | 02:29 PM
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Sounds like the GPCM failed then
 
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Old Mar 7, 2018 | 02:39 PM
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I did that and also did an ohms test and it seems ok . Tested by disconnecting the harness that has the four wire coming from it on top of the valve cover. 1.0 to .09 is what I was getting. But when I test the big green and black plugs coming from the gpcm I don't get a reading on every terminal.
Had the same things on the kids truck last winter, same code. Found a used one off an 07 E350 from ebay.
Doesn't really explain the no crank issue however

How is the charging system?
 
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Old Mar 7, 2018 | 02:47 PM
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Charging system is good. The wife is on her way from work right now with a new gpcm. I hope this handles it.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2018 | 03:34 PM
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Ok so gpcm is not the problem. The new one did not fix the issue. Right before my wife got home I got it to fire it let out a huge puff of white smoke. Then I shut it down and now it won't crank at all again the engine won't even crank with the key off and using a jumper to the starter
 
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Old Mar 7, 2018 | 04:12 PM
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Ok so gpcm is not the problem. The new one did not fix the issue. Right before my wife got home I got it to fire it let out a huge puff of white smoke. Then I shut it down and now it won't crank at all again the engine won't even crank with the key off and using a jumper to the starter
Has it been using any coolant since the repairs?
 
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Old Mar 7, 2018 | 05:24 PM
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One of my batteries has some acid on top of it. Probably not good. But would a bad battery shut down my truck while I am driving down the road?
 
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Old Mar 7, 2018 | 05:53 PM
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Has it been using any coolant since the repairs?
Coolant has been fine
 
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Were all the nuts, bolts, rags, parts etc accounted for when you had the manifold off? Does the starter try to turn the engine?
 
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Old Mar 7, 2018 | 09:35 PM
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Were all the nuts, bolts, rags, parts etc accounted for when you had the manifold off? Does the starter try to turn the engine?
Yes all was accounted for. As far as the start well now it seems the gear is broken it just spins. Oh ya good times
 
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Sorry for your problems!

Sounds like it might need a battery (based on your battery acid post). Try charging it and then load testing it. Sounds like you then need to pull your starter. Replace if necessary. Then pull glow plugs and turn by hand to see if it had been hydrolocked. Any way to guess at what the white cloud was (coolant or fuel)?

With the code you posted, I don't think you wasted the money on the GPCM, but a bad battery (if that is what you have), can cause a lot of problems, depending on how low the voltage gets.
 
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Were all the nuts, bolts, rags, parts etc accounted for when you had the manifold off? Does the starter try to turn the engine?
Just what I was going to ask reading through.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2018 | 05:09 AM
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Sorry for your problems!

Sounds like it might need a battery (based on your battery acid post). Try charging it and then load testing it. Sounds like you then need to pull your starter. Replace if necessary. Then pull glow plugs and turn by hand to see if it had been hydrolocked. Any way to guess at what the white cloud was (coolant or fuel)?

With the code you posted, I don't think you wasted the money on the GPCM, but a bad battery (if that is what you have), can cause a lot of problems, depending on how low the voltage gets.
Pretty sure the smoke was fuel. Probably from all the times I tried to crank it without it firein
 
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