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Old 04-11-2018, 04:54 PM
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1960 wiring help!!

I wonder if anyone can help me out, i imported my F100 from LA last year, after getting it running i am finally getting to the wiring. (complete electrical novice).
Its a completely basic farm truck, no heater/radio/window washers etc.
It is completely stock other than an alternator has been fitted, the battery isnt charging so i'm assuming the alternator is wired up wrongly and i have various 'odd' wires lurking under the dash.
Im hoping someone has a diagram they could post for a 1960 223 and if anyone has any knowledge of how to wire the alternator correctly that would be brill.
 
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There are several google searches that will give you wiring diagrams for your ford f100. I found a great site that sells a larger, color diagram that is laminated for garage use. I ordered one and have found it very accurate and helpful. I felt it was reasonably priced.

https://www.classiccarwiring.com/195...iring-diagram/

Good luck with your project.
 
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Thanks glust ive done some digging and am i correct in thinking that i dont need the blue regulator anymore!
 
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My 60' is pretty bone stock and it doesn't have one of those... Is it an ignition module?? or a really big voltage regulator??
 
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This isnt original either
GE CR104P NEMA A600 Contact Block going to alternator!
 
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wow. but when you jump from generator to alternator some changes have to be made. Mine still has a generator
 
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It looks like they used an older mechanical generator regulator, and didn't connect the Field, as isn't necessary?

Maybe that works, but that isn't the way to bet. And things have been re-routed, spliced, cut, taped and generally looks pretty dodgy. I'm not personally very good at reverse engineering stuff like ... that. Were it me, I'd have to remove everything and just start over from scratch.

What kind of alternator is it? A "period correct" alternator used a separate voltage regulator as well, but it is different electrically than one used with a generator. In later years too, a solid state VR replaced the earlier, mechanical regulator style. Still other alternators are internally regulated and need no external regulator at all. The GM "one wire" is popular.

Consequently what you have installed now, or what you want to do, will sort of dictate what course you have to take. The pity is they removed the generator! They work absolutely fine, especially installed on a truck without all the "extras" like a heater or radio and so on. Oh well.
 
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more pics

few pics of the rest of the mess!


 
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not even connected
 
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Those GM alternators are available in a "single wire" configuration. They have the charging circuitry built in so you don't need a regulator or extra wires. Just run a #10 gauge wire from the alternator to the input side of your starter relay (solenoid) and you are good to go.
 
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Cheers oldbleu, havent identified the alternator on it yet, but will probably change to a single wire.
 
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black electrical tape....well, ok..
silver duct tape?? Are you kidding??

I saw one once with lamp cord spliced in... and plastic wire nuts!!!!
 
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Cheers oldbleu, haven't identified the alternator on it yet, but will probably change to a single wire.
The alternator in the picture appears to be a basic GM model. Do some poking around in the "on line" speed shop web sites and you will find one.
 
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As a practical matter I'd advise disconnecting the battery anytime you're not around. Until you get things sorted out.

With wiring like that mess, it may not be charging but it still might catch on fire.
 


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