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Old Mar 2, 2018 | 07:51 AM
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Slow your roll here a bit. If it will pass the oil cap test, you are likely golden.
Next up, do a boost leak test. Do you have a boost gauge?
After you fix the boot leaks, rig up a boost gauge (any 0-30psig gauge will work).
Tee it into the map sensor line. How much boost does she make under load?
18 and above and its OK, Under 15, I would push the up pipes to the top of my list.
I do not have a boost gauge. I am going to the parts store after work today and hopefully they will have the stuff.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2018 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by AllaboutMPG
Welcome to the board. Does it have bellowed up pipes or the original style. do you see any sign of soot toward the back of the engine bay.
I crawled under it last night and tried to take some pictures, I wasn't able to get a good one of the passenger side, but I believe they are original. No signs of black soot either.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2018 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 00t444e
... snipped ... you just need to check to make sure everything is working properly with no boost leaks and make sure your injectors and high pressure oil system are in good shape. Then you can do a few mods to get some more power.
I'm no expert but based on all of the reading I've been doing lately on the oil, HEUI and injection systems, I agree with 00t444e's above statement.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2018 | 09:00 AM
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It doesn't look like you have any huge leaks.
The place where soot would be most evident would be at the connection of the 2 up pipes and the back of the turbo. Looks like some black in the one picture but hard to tell. The original design was a couple of doughnut style gaskets and they wear over time. This can be a source of lost pressure to drive the turbo. Try to stick the camera up close and get shots of that area.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2018 | 11:57 AM
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Yep there is nothing obviouly leaking, but you need to do a boost leak test first.It the tubo intake drive side is not pushing much the exhust side will be doing a lot less work.
If you can build 20pig of boost, you are much more likely to find the up pipes leaking than if you can't break 10 psig!
 
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Old Mar 2, 2018 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Karlow
Slow your roll here a bit. If it will pass the oil cap test, you are likely golden.
Next up, do a boost leak test. Do you have a boost gauge?
After you fix the boot leaks, rig up a boost gauge (any 0-30psig gauge will work).
Tee it into the map sensor line. How much boost does she make under load?
18 and above and its OK, Under 15, I would push the up pipes to the top of my list.
I made a quick boost gauge today by pulling the map line, putting a t-insert in and hooking it up to a 0-60 air gauge. At max load I would hit 20 briefly but that quickly fell to around 15-16 ish.

I also looked a little closer at the sticker and realized it is an early 99 (build date of 7/98).
 
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Old Mar 2, 2018 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Cliff Cogdill
I made a quick boost gauge today by pulling the map line, putting a t-insert in and hooking it up to a 0-60 air gauge. At max load I would hit 20 briefly but that quickly fell to around 15-16 ish.

I also looked a little closer at the sticker and realized it is an early 99 (build date of 7/98).
Your boost is normal, now you need to get a scanner so you can we what your injection control pressure, and ipr duty cycle is. You can download Forscan for free and get an obd2 adapter and it can read those parameters or if you want a good cheap scanner the scanguage 2 works well.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2018 | 09:39 PM
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I already have FORSCAN setup with a scanner.

This is a point in time snapshot, but I could upload a dashboard save file to my Google drive and share it if that helps.

RPM: 1962
Torque: 292 ft-lb
ICP: 2278 psi
IPR: 30.47 %
Trans: Drive
TC_Slipact, rev/min: 3
 
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Old Mar 2, 2018 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Cliff Cogdill
I already have FORSCAN setup with a scanner.

This is a point in time snapshot, but I could upload a dashboard save file to my Google drive and share it if that helps.

RPM: 1962
Torque: 292 ft-lb
ICP: 2278 psi
IPR: 30.47 %
Trans: Drive
TC_Slipact, rev/min: 3
Those look pretty normal. In your first post you mentioned needing an egr, sensor and line, there is no egr on a 7.3 so I am assuming it is the exhaust backpressure sensor and line you are talking about, if the sensor is bad it will cause the engine to feel sluggish. Sometimes all you have to do is clean the sensor and line.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2018 | 10:01 PM
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I was referring to the exhaust gas re-circulation tube that goes from the exhaust gas back pressure sensor down to the exhaust manifold. I replaced both the tube and the sensor.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2018 | 11:48 PM
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You can have "normal" boost readings and still have small boost leaks in the system. Really need to pressure test it. I thought I was fine but I was wrong.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2018 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Cliff Cogdill
I was referring to the exhaust gas re-circulation tube that goes from the exhaust gas back pressure sensor down to the exhaust manifold. I replaced both the tube and the sensor.
Not to nit pick on you but that is not a gas re-circulation tube, it is a dead end tube that just feeds the exhaust back pressure sensor. The only emissions controls on these engines is the crankcase vent (CCV) that sends crankcase gases through the intake system to get burnt. It feeds out of the driver's side VC towards the firewall to the intake tube right adjacent to it.
 
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Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter
Not to nit pick on you but that is not a gas re-circulation tube, it is a dead end tube that just feeds the exhaust back pressure sensor. The only emissions controls on these engines is the crankcase vent (CCV) that sends crankcase gases through the intake system to get burnt. It feeds out of the driver's side VC towards the firewall to the intake tube right adjacent to it.
No worries I understand there isn't a 're-circulation' of exhaust gas with the 7.3. I just used the name that came up on the parts order. Sorry if its misleading, this is my first diesel so there is a bit of learning curve to overcome.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2018 | 09:09 PM
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I appreciate all the help everyone has given me on this topic. After running through the FORSCAN tests the only 'failure' I am coming up with is the parking brake switch, which is just a little corroded. At this point I think the consensus is to hold off on the rebuild and find the boost leak I may have, which I am going to try to find tomorrow.

One thing to note, is that when I hooked up my gauge the needle wouldn't stay constant. Instead, it would flutter rapidly between 16 - 20. Could this just be in the gauge itself since it was just a regular air gauge?
 
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