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I am reading the brochure for a 2017 F-150 145" WB Supercrew 4x4. The spreadsheet provides one spec for 2wd and another for 4wd. And if you have the max towing package it gives another number. I get all that.
My question- Do the non-max tow numbers represent tow capacities for the standard tow package? If so, what can the truck tow without either the tow package or max tow package?
There is 3 levels your truck is rated for. As you can see whith the equipment levels it will allow you to pull more at each level. Can you pull as much with out a trans cooler, No it will cause your transmission to overheat.
Truck with just the reciever hitch.
Includes:
• 4-pin/7-pin wiring harness
• Class IV trailer hitch receiver
• Smart Trailer Tow Connector
Tow package,
Includes:
• 4-pin/7-pin wiring harness
• Auxiliary transmission oil cooler
• Class IV trailer hitch receiver
• Pro Trailer Backup Assist (not included on XL Base)
• Tailgate LED (standard on LARIAT and higher)
• Smart Trailer Tow Connector (standard on LARIAT and higher)
• Upgraded front stabilizer bar
Max tow package,
Includes:
• 3.55 Electronic-locking rear-axle
• 4-pin/7-pin wiring harness
• 36 Gallon fuel tank
• Auxiliary transmission oil cooler
• Engine oil cooler
• Class IV trailer hitch receiver
• Pro Trailer Backup Assist with Tailgate LED
• Smart Trailer Tow Connector (standard on LARIAT and higher)
• Integrated Trailer Brake Controller
• Upgraded front stabilizer bar
• Upgraded rear bumper
Requires 3.5L EcoBoost® engine.
Does not include Trailer Tow Mirrors. Trailer Tow Mirrors are a standalone option and must be ordered separately.
Max GCWR/Max Tow achieved on SuperCrew® when equipped with 20-inch Wheels. This configuration will also come equipped with max springs, steering gear, and upgraded stabilizer bar.
I do understand the three levels. My problem is relating those three levels to the truck towing specs from the Ford brochure.
As an example I have highlighted the 2.5L ecoboost with 3.55 gear. A supercrew with max tow (superscript 4) should be able to tow 11,500#. Does the 10,700# represent what a truck with a standard tow package? If so, what can an F-150 tow without a tow package?
Well what do the foot notes say? This is the Maximum a truck with proper equipment can tow, which is also the least equipt truck in the series as in an XL 100A. Don't worry so much about the book look and see what the maximum gross combined vehicle weight is on your door sticker. Subtract the weight of your truck, I would go to a cat scale and get the real world weight, whats left you can legally tow. However you will run out of load compacity on your truck before you run out of tow capacity. Oh and the lower weight would be for a 4X4 truck. it weighs more than a 4X2 truck.
Here are the footnotes. It may be there and I just missed it.
WB = Wheelbase 1Requires 2.7L EcoBoost Payload Package. 2Requires Heavy-Duty Payload Package and 18" wheels. 3Requires Heavy-Duty Payload Package and 17" wheels. 4Requires Max. Trailer Tow Package.
Towing Notes: Maximum loaded trailer weights shown. Do not exceed trailer weight of 5,000 lbs. when towing with bumper only. The combined weight of the towing vehicle (including options, hitch, passengers and cargo) and the loaded trailer
must not exceed the GCWR (Gross Combination Weight Rating). Trailer tongue load weight should be 10-15% of total loaded trailer weight. Make sure that the vehicle payload (reduced by option weight) will accommodate trailer tongue load weight
and the weight of passengers and cargo added to the towing vehicle. The addition of trailer tongue load weight, and the weight of passengers and cargo, cannot cause vehicle weights to exceed the rear GAWR (Gross Axle Weight Rating) or GVWR
(Gross Vehicle Weight Rating). These ratings can be found on the vehicle’s Safety Compliance Certification Label. See the RV and Trailer Towing Guide for requirements, restrictions and 5th-wheel towing.
I can't take the truck to a scale. I am actually trying to understand these as I am looking to buy a truck now.
I think you should go to the towing forum and ask thaes questions. Those guys are much better at this. Maybe they can explain it better than I have. However if you are thinking about the towing over about 9,000 lbs they will all tell you get at least an F250.
here is the problem on the F150,
the loaded trailer
must not exceed the GCWR (Gross Combination Weight Rating). Trailer tongue load weight should be 10-15% of total loaded trailer weight. Make sure that the vehicle payload (reduced by option weight) will accommodate trailer tongue load weight
and the weight of passengers and cargo added to the towing vehicle. The addition of trailer tongue load weight, and the weight of passengers and cargo, cannot cause vehicle weights to exceed the rear GAWR (Gross Axle Weight Rating) or GVWR
(Gross Vehicle Weight Rating). These ratings can be found on the vehicle’s Safety Compliance Certification Label
Thank you. I really appreciate the advice. As far as what i intend to tow, I don't even own anything yet to tow. After buying the truck i will purchase a travel trailer. I expect it will not be over 9000#. I just thought if I could get a truck spec'd at 10,000+ # I should be OK.
Also you need to think about if you are towing 9000 lbs a few miles or couple hundred miles once or twice a year as opposed to quite a few hundred miles quite often or much more than a couple times a year. Most will say if you are towing quite frequently as in for work and such and more than a few hundred miles then go for superduty for the piece of mind and more stable towing platform.
I would recommend that you follow TJ's advise - post #6.
I run out of payload, GCWR, GAWR and truck payload, etc. well before I run out of the tow weights in the brochure.
For my truck I wouldn't pull anything that has an empty wt. greater than 5,100 Lbs. Reason is once loaded up my truck gets to within several hundred lbs of the GVWR.
I think you have to take the tow ratings in the brochure like the EPA fuel econ ratings in the window sticker. Nobody can achieve them.
Also you need to think about if you are towing 9000 lbs a few miles or couple hundred miles once or twice a year as opposed to quite a few hundred miles quite often or much more than a couple times a year.
I will be towing very IN-frequently. I would guess maybe a dozen times a year. Although I know an F-250 would give me far greater capacities, I find them to be too big to drive everyday around town. I would prefer to stay with the F-150 and downsize the trailer if I have to. As I look at used 2016 and 2017 F-150's I want to get as much towing capacity as possible. That seems to be with the max tow package. I can find them, but many times those trucks have other aspects I don't care for. I am trying to understand how much I am giving up if I do not get a truck with the max tow package.
I will be towing very IN-frequently. I would guess maybe a dozen times a year. Although I know an F-250 would give me far greater capacities, I find them to be too big to drive everyday around town. I would prefer to stay with the F-150 and downsize the trailer if I have to. As I look at used 2016 and 2017 F-150's I want to get as much towing capacity as possible. That seems to be with the max tow package. I can find them, but many times those trucks have other aspects I don't care for. I am trying to understand how much I am giving up if I do not get a truck with the max tow package.
Sounds like you may want a 5.0 V8. My wifes 2017 XLT SuperCrew 4x2 came with a 7000lb GWR with 5.0 and Towpackage. The Ford website has a spread sheet that gives detailed specs based on configureations. A quick look at it tells me that our truck can safely tow 9,000lbs and has a 2,000lb payload....I'll copy and paste a link.
Nevermind, I didn't see anything more detailed then you found.
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