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Old Feb 18, 2018 | 07:34 PM
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3 Speed Installation

I’m stuck need some advice, i’m trying to reinstall the 3 speed and I can’t get it to line up. I have a floor jack and can get the nose in but the throw out bearing keeps slipping off the fork. I’m hoping someone else out there has tried to do this in the garage with a floor jack
 
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Been there, done that. 8 or 9 times in a year with my '65 Mustang. I too had that bearing falling off the fork.

SERVING SUGGESTION:

Install the bell on the trans first. Then install the whole mess using the jack to adjust for height and roll it on to the motor. (Jack has to be parallel to vehicle, not in from the side. Easy for me to say.)

Get some 6" bolts in the same size as your bell to block bolts. Cut the heads off and cut a slot in the end. Screw those into a couple holes in the back of the block. As your assembly rolls towards the engine, you can align it on those studs as you move it in.

Clutch disc alignment is critical here. The parts store wooden dowel tool isn't very accurate. An actual input shaft is the way to go.

Be sure you are blocked up and supported right. A flat head motor is ok but not a flat head you.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2018 | 08:15 PM
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Been there, done that. 8 or 9 times in a year with my '65 Mustang. I too had that bearing falling off the fork.
8 or 9 times in a single year?! I got to ask what kept going wrong?

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SERVING SUGGESTION:

Install the bell on the trans first. Then install the whole mess using the jack to adjust for height and roll it on to the motor. (Jack has to be parallel to vehicle, not in from the side. Easy for me to say.)
I’ve been trying to jack it from the side, i’ll spin it around and try.
Can’t bolt the belhousing to the transmission and bolt it to the engine there is a cross member in the way


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Get some 6" bolts in the same size as your bell to block bolts. Cut the heads off and cut a slot in the end. Screw those into a couple holes in the back of the block. As your assembly rolls towards the engine, you can align it on those studs as you move it in.
This is an EXCELLENT idea ! I think i’ll do some threaded rods

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Clutch disc alignment is critical here. The parts store wooden dowel tool isn't very accurate. An actual input shaft is the way to go.

Be sure you are blocked up and supported right. A flat head motor is ok but not a flat head you.
 
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You can use the stud idea on the bell, then use them to guide the trans into the bell. That throw out bearing is a pita, as any little nudge will pop it out of the spring clips. But, with a steadier movement via the rolling jack, you might get it.

As to my repeated installations---

Clutch change. 3 speed to 4 speed. 4 speed back to 3 speed. 3 speed to 4 speed. 4 speed to 3 speed. 4 speed sold, different 4 speed, so, 3 speed to 4 speed. 4 speed to 3 speed. 3 speed to 4 speed. BINGO.

Never buy a T10 for a Ford. All are old, they were weak to begin with, no one has parts for a Ford version, and they pop out of gear. Don't take your loudmouth buddy with you when you take it back to the scrappy the second time. Do buy a top loader from a reputable outfit that knows they are overcharging you. Get it replaced promptly when it, too, pops out of 2nd gear.

Enjoy the drive once you get a good one.

Vow to never do a transmission change in an apartment car port again.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod
You can use the stud idea on the bell, then use them to guide the trans into the bell. That throw out bearing is a pita, as any little nudge will pop it out of the spring clips. But, with a steadier movement via the rolling jack, you might get it.
As to my repeated installations---

Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod
Clutch change. 3 speed to 4 speed. 4 speed back to 3 speed. 3 speed to 4 speed. 4 speed to 3 speed. 4 speed sold, different 4 speed, so, 3 speed to 4 speed. 4 speed to 3 speed. 3 speed to 4 speed. BINGO.
Once has been enough to avoid ever trying this again !

Never buy a T10 for a Ford. All are old, they were weak to begin with, no one has parts for a Ford version, and they pop out of gear. Don't take your loudmouth buddy with you when you take it back to the scrappy the second time. Do buy a top loader from a reputable outfit that knows they are overcharging you. Get it replaced promptly when it, too, pops out of 2nd gear.

Enjoy the drive once you get a good one.

Vow to never do a transmission change in an apartment car port again.[/QUOTE]
 
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Old Feb 25, 2018 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod
Been there, done that, I too had that bearing falling off the fork. Install the bell on the trans first. Then install the whole mess using the jack to adjust for height and roll it on to the motor. (Jack has to be parallel to vehicle, not in from the side.
Well it worked, I tried like you suggested, installed the belhousing on the transmission then wriggled the whole assembly between the exhaust pipes and front crossmember. That was one PINTA! I totally ruined the new through out bearing and had to buy one from the local parts store. All that’s left is to finish bolting it together and get ready for a cruise
 
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Glad you got it finished up. Makes me glad to have that heavy a__ C6 now.
 
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