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Are the suspension upgrades (leaf spring) and adding the sway bars and swapping axles and all that the same for the v10?
everything is the same we are just talking v10 vs diesel?
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North of houston right now. Heading towards padre island / alamo soon.
I would be looking to keep the stock tire size. Upgrade suspension to stiffer springs like i have seen in the forum. Sway bars and that sort of thing. What axle code am i looking for for best towing. I mean not just torque. Most of towing is rolling down the road. Only what 15% is hill climb and yank out of your spot....
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Outstanding! thanks for the offer i may take you up on it. Trying to see how much cash i can pull together now. But might wait a bit to buy. I guess it depends on the deal.
Yes stock tire im talking 16 inch rim im not looking to go fancy. By axle i was thinking axle code in my head but specifically i guess gear ratio would be what i was really getting at. I sawvsome guys say that the 4.3 gear ratio was optimal but they had different wheel sizes which changed geometry. Im talking standard wheel. F250 super duty spring upgrade and any other towing improvement. If thats what i am doing, should the 3.73 work or still look for the 4.3? I guess im trying to figure out what im looking for so i can try to find it.


Yes, as Mike has said, all of the 4X4 EXs have the same suspensions (with only slightly heavier front springs on the PSD rig as they are a bit heavier) so the same upgrades with pickup spring swaps work on both PSD and gasser EXs.
ALL PSD EXs came with 3.73 gears, as that is what works best to keep the diesels in their happy place while cruising. The V-10 rigs had a standard 3.73 gear with the option of 4.30, if you are building a gas tow pig you will want the 4.30s with stock sized tires.
On the door jamb sticker it will have the gear ratio shown under the "Axle" header (although some early EXs were missing this code....) 3.73 non-LS = "31", 3.73 LS = C1 and 4.30 LS = C3.
In my experience with the 6.8 the deeper gears helped in ALL towing situations. We made the same trip from/to Philly and Savannah while towing the old 9500lb TH with the stock 3.73 gears and again with the 4.88s installed. Both trips had the same 32" tires, same trailer and weight, same route, same speed etc.... This trip is about as flat of a long run as you will have here along the East Coast with only rolling hills in MD and VA. With the 3.73 we saw 6 to 7 MPG and several downshifts out of OD on those rolling hills, following the change to 4.88s (and no other changes) we got a solid 9 MPG and didn't downshift a single time while cruising on the Interstates. No big hills and no stop & go and it had much improved power application and a substantial bump in MPGs.
 
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If i cannot find the 4.3 how can i get there? Swap the axle with f250 that has the 4.3?
 
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You could just swap the ring and pinion and be done with it. Ring and pinion sets run about $325-400. I can install for you if you are still here in TX. The other option is to get an axle from a F250/350 that had a 5.4L engine in it. Then you are pretty much guaranteed to get that gear ratio (4.30).
 
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Ok perfect!
i’ve been looking around on the Internet here is the link to one that I found. https://www.texastruckseller.com/mob...x?vid=16423900
if you look at the pictures there is a door sticker, but it does not indicate the axle??!
 
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I would call them and ask them to text you a picture of the tag on the actual axle itself. Or, they could print the build sheet from the VIN and tell you that way.

Is $13k in your budget? If so, there are better trucks/prices out there than that.

What features are your must haves? 4x4? Leather? Cloth? Diesel or Gas?
 
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I just thought that was strange with the tag not showing anything.
I dunno. Im waiting on some tax money. Might be able to swing that. I was looking at vehicles under 15k to get an idea. Leather is a must. The more bells and whistles the better of course. Really i want the best mechanical excursion i can find diesel or v10 for towing and hauling my travel trailer for the next 1-2 years. If there are better vehicles i would love to see them. If any members want to build me something thats within the budget im interested in hearing about it.
 
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Private seller and possibly one-owner:
https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/d...501702560.html

1 owner private seller:
https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/d...501585091.html

Private seller in upscale area (this is a plus):
https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/d...495788760.html

Not a private seller, but price is right:
https://houston.craigslist.org/ctd/d...474175595.html

I prefer to deal with private owners all day every day. You will get more info on the vehicle, and you will have more bargaining power with a private seller.
 
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What do you think of this one for 7500
https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/d...498438362.html

or this one for 7500
https://www.beckmansmc.com/mobile/md...?vid=270291541

talked with both. They will take 7500. I have not looked at them yet.
 
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In regards to the 6.uh-oh:

Do you work on your own vehicle? Have tools? Have you ever owned a diesel? Are you willing to put the effort and energy into learning all about that engine and its shortcomings that need to be addressed?

A 7.3L is a MUCH safer bet for a first time diesel owner. Very forgiving and easy to work on. The 6.uh-oh is not forgiving, and it is not easy to work on. The wheels on it have been changed to 18", so that guy is running spacers on it if he has a brain, but looking at the photos I ain't so sure. I noticed the spare is still a 16"...arm rest missing in second row...

In regards to the V-10:

It is 2wd. Can you live with that? For the miles and interior condition, that is a good price at $7500. You need to pull the history report on it, and really, really check the underside for rust. If there is any rust, re-evaluate.
 
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The last V10 posted seems pretty decent.
 
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Give me details. I cant pm anyone. Dont have permission. 😩
 
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You will after today.

After being a registered user for 5 days and posting 10 times, PM capabilities become activated.

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PS - Those posts were removed because selling in the tech forums is a no-no.
 

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Sorry ‘bout that 😐
still no pm. Will check back tomorrow.
Thanks for all the help so far guys!
nicmike can you somehow email me? I might be heading across texas your way...got a couple questions. Thanks!
 
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Could somebody give me a measurement of the cargo area of the excursion? The size is the same for all models correct? and I’m wondering if the dc travel refrigerator i have is going to fit. I would put it lengthwise on the passenger side where the DC outlet is. It fits in my suburban but the top where the seat leans into it it does get pretty tight. So I guess I would need the measurement from the base of the seat to the tailgate and then also from the top of the seat to the tailgate.
 


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