F150 bed durability
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F150 bed durability
First of all, this isn't a complaint about the BS Chevy commercials; I'm not whining about the aluminum for the bed. Rather, I have a specific concern and questions for anyone who's been down a particular road, so to speak.
I have not yet bought a new truck, but an F150 is on my list as soon as my kids get out of college; one will be out soon and the other not far behind. That will free up some money for a payment.
I currently pull my RV, and put my Victory motorcycle in the bed of my current truck, using the front cleats as an anchor point for the front straps to the m/c forks. As my m/c is fairly heavy, about 950 pounds, there's a fair amount of stress on the strap cleats at the front and rear of the bed; it holds the bike down and also keeps it from swaying side-to-side. The steel bed I have now seems to hold up well enough.
My concern is for the "new" aluminum bed, at the cleats. Will they take the kind of load force I'm going to induce? I am worried that the cleats will tear out/away from the bed, either pulling the bolts through, or actually tearing the alum bed at the mount location.
Has anyone put large loads on the cleats? (I'm not talking about holding down a tarp, but real force via a heavy load strap holding several hundreds of pounds).
Is there any potential to "upgrade" this area with some home-made improvements? Can you get a large "backer-plate" in between the inner/outer bed panels, and use that to distribute the force out over a larger area, dispersing the load? Basically making a system to bolt the cleat through the bed and to the backer-plate, making for a reduction of pressure on the mount area?
I do realize that the SD trucks now use aluminum, but they have a heavier gauge material for their beds. I don't really want a SD; don't really need all the capacity that it offers and would be just fine with a F150 and HDPP.
So, does anyone have real world experiences either strapping down heavy bikes for long trips, or heavy loads for workday jobs, and seen any concerns of the stress points of the cleat area?
I have not yet bought a new truck, but an F150 is on my list as soon as my kids get out of college; one will be out soon and the other not far behind. That will free up some money for a payment.
I currently pull my RV, and put my Victory motorcycle in the bed of my current truck, using the front cleats as an anchor point for the front straps to the m/c forks. As my m/c is fairly heavy, about 950 pounds, there's a fair amount of stress on the strap cleats at the front and rear of the bed; it holds the bike down and also keeps it from swaying side-to-side. The steel bed I have now seems to hold up well enough.
My concern is for the "new" aluminum bed, at the cleats. Will they take the kind of load force I'm going to induce? I am worried that the cleats will tear out/away from the bed, either pulling the bolts through, or actually tearing the alum bed at the mount location.
Has anyone put large loads on the cleats? (I'm not talking about holding down a tarp, but real force via a heavy load strap holding several hundreds of pounds).
Is there any potential to "upgrade" this area with some home-made improvements? Can you get a large "backer-plate" in between the inner/outer bed panels, and use that to distribute the force out over a larger area, dispersing the load? Basically making a system to bolt the cleat through the bed and to the backer-plate, making for a reduction of pressure on the mount area?
I do realize that the SD trucks now use aluminum, but they have a heavier gauge material for their beds. I don't really want a SD; don't really need all the capacity that it offers and would be just fine with a F150 and HDPP.
So, does anyone have real world experiences either strapping down heavy bikes for long trips, or heavy loads for workday jobs, and seen any concerns of the stress points of the cleat area?
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Anything "bed or rail" mounted would not really alter the concern, just the point of failure, right? Anything that bolts through the alum bed is a cause for concern, conceptually, no matter where it's at.
I do have a "chock" system I made at home; it keeps the front wheel centered and distributes the forward load so that it's not concentrated on one spot, causing a dent. Plus, I strap the rear of the bike to the rear frame, so that any panic stops "pull" on the strap and don't let the front wheel "push" on the front of the bed.
I do have a "chock" system I made at home; it keeps the front wheel centered and distributes the forward load so that it's not concentrated on one spot, causing a dent. Plus, I strap the rear of the bike to the rear frame, so that any panic stops "pull" on the strap and don't let the front wheel "push" on the front of the bed.
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Just for reference, Ford says the Boxlink cleats (the new ones in addition to the traditional tie-down loops) are rated 275lbs or 600 lbs depending on strap direction:
"BoxLink adds four additional tie-down locations in the box to complement the four fixed tie-down hooks carried over from the previous model, for a total of eight. Additionally, BoxLink is located on a reinforced area of the box at mid-level – accommodating the majority of cargo loads. Reinforcement of the cleats allows them to accommodate a horizontal (cross-box) load of 275 pounds and a diagonal load of 600 pounds."
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My issue beyond the tie downs is how to get the bike up in that mile-high bed. It was nearly life threatening with my E150, but that was probably over a foot lower than the tailgate on the F150.
This getting old business really cuts in to the "run it up the ramp and jump up on the gate" act of yesteryear.....
This getting old business really cuts in to the "run it up the ramp and jump up on the gate" act of yesteryear.....
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My issue beyond the tie downs is how to get the bike up in that mile-high bed. It was nearly life threatening with my E150, but that was probably over a foot lower than the tailgate on the F150.
This getting old business really cuts in to the "run it up the ramp and jump up on the gate" act of yesteryear.....
This getting old business really cuts in to the "run it up the ramp and jump up on the gate" act of yesteryear.....
Worked great on the mile-high bed on my old F-350 and excellent with current F-150. Some presidents day sales now too. They break down into 3 sections for easier storage. I've been able to fit all the ramps and gear in my bed no problem. Very safe way to load/unload.
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Among the best things about our 2015 XLT. Most of the times I have the cleats installed, but when we are hauling, the ramps are simply great. I love the way they secure to the lip of the tailgate. We have used them to load a big generator, ATV, lawn mower, motorcycle(s), etc.