First of all, this isn't a complaint about the BS Chevy commercials; I'm not whining about the aluminum for the bed. Rather, I have a specific concern and questions for anyone who's been down a particular road, so to speak.


I have not yet bought a new truck, but an F150 is on my list as soon as my kids get out of college; one will be out soon and the other not far behind. That will free up some money for a payment.


I currently pull my RV, and put my Victory motorcycle in the bed of my current truck, using the front cleats as an anchor point for the front straps to the m/c forks. As my m/c is fairly heavy, about 950 pounds, there's a fair amount of stress on the strap cleats at the front and rear of the bed; it holds the bike down and also keeps it from swaying side-to-side. The steel bed I have now seems to hold up well enough.


My concern is for the "new" aluminum bed, at the cleats. Will they take the kind of load force I'm going to induce? I am worried that the cleats will tear out/away from the bed, either pulling the bolts through, or actually tearing the alum bed at the mount location.


Has anyone put large loads on the cleats? (I'm not talking about holding down a tarp, but real force via a heavy load strap holding several hundreds of pounds).


Is there any potential to "upgrade" this area with some home-made improvements? Can you get a large "backer-plate" in between the inner/outer bed panels, and use that to distribute the force out over a larger area, dispersing the load? Basically making a system to bolt the cleat through the bed and to the backer-plate, making for a reduction of pressure on the mount area?




I do realize that the SD trucks now use aluminum, but they have a heavier gauge material for their beds. I don't really want a SD; don't really need all the capacity that it offers and would be just fine with a F150 and HDPP.




So, does anyone have real world experiences either strapping down heavy bikes for long trips, or heavy loads for workday jobs, and seen any concerns of the stress points of the cleat area?

 

Steel or aluminum bed i would not rely just on the tie down points, i would go with a bed or rail mounted wheel chock to help support the bike.

 

Anything "bed or rail" mounted would not really alter the concern, just the point of failure, right? Anything that bolts through the alum bed is a cause for concern, conceptually, no matter where it's at.


I do have a "chock" system I made at home; it keeps the front wheel centered and distributes the forward load so that it's not concentrated on one spot, causing a dent. Plus, I strap the rear of the bike to the rear frame, so that any panic stops "pull" on the strap and don't let the front wheel "push" on the front of the bed.

 

No, you would still use the tie downs but the rail mounted chock holds the tire halfway up and adds another point of contact to help spread the load out over a large area instead of just at the tie down points.

 

I don't believe there would be any problem. The standard motorcycle tie down straps will not exert enough pressure to tear the beds tie down hooks. All they do is compress the front forks of the motorcycle and not really all of the way. Only enough to secure the bike.

 

Maybe apples and oranges, but I've hauled our ATV in the bed. It weighs ~~ 800 lbs, and I use the corner anchors. I've also used the removable cleats in the sides.

 

Just for reference, Ford says the Boxlink cleats (the new ones in addition to the traditional tie-down loops) are rated 275lbs or 600 lbs depending on strap direction:

 

Thanks. That helps with some decent info.

Perhaps I could use both the lower cleats AND box-link, and have a pretty good situation then. Lower cleats to help compress the forks, and box-links to help hold it steady in side-to-side loads.

 

My issue beyond the tie downs is how to get the bike up in that mile-high bed. It was nearly life threatening with my E150, but that was probably over a foot lower than the tailgate on the F150.

This getting old business really cuts in to the "run it up the ramp and jump up on the gate" act of yesteryear.....

 

I used to carry a 2013 Polaris RZR in the bed of my 2016 F150.

Josh

 

Should have got the factory ramps, they are very secure!! loaded a riding mower in mine. I did have to back up to a curb to help a little on the angle but it had a mower deck under it.

 

I was learning new ways to get in and out of my car and that's why I sold it and bought a truck, easier on the back to get in and out of it. Anyways regarding getting old, I love it because look at the alternative...

 

I've been using these for years: https://www.discountramps.com/black-...p/p/BW-40-AMR/

Worked great on the mile-high bed on my old F-350 and excellent with current F-150. Some presidents day sales now too. They break down into 3 sections for easier storage. I've been able to fit all the ramps and gear in my bed no problem. Very safe way to load/unload.

 

I sprayed mine with U-Pol® Raptor Spray-On Truck Bed Liner Kit.
I've thrown brick, pavers, cider blocks, 90lbs cement bags, etc.
no damage or dents.

Strapped a ATV on a 233mile trip using the factory tie downs. no issues with aluminum.

 

Among the best things about our 2015 XLT. Most of the times I have the cleats installed, but when we are hauling, the ramps are simply great. I love the way they secure to the lip of the tailgate. We have used them to load a big generator, ATV, lawn mower, motorcycle(s), etc.