F200 '69 C6 leaking fluid - already replaced seal
#1
F200 '69 C6 leaking fluid - already replaced seal
I have this beater truck that I'm trying to fix up. I know little about cars but I find my way around. Found the tranny was dripping fluid from the inspection cover by the bell housing so my stepdad and I pulled the tranny and replaced the pump seal. It was under a tight deadline (he had to leave) so it is possible the seal wasn't installed properly. Now, fluid is streaming out of the same location when I fill it. When it has fluid it shifts without issue and goes in to gear fine.
He is coming back up here soon so I wanted to make sure I had whatever parts needed. He says that it is still likely only that pump seal and that is all we need. I figure we didn't install it right (I'll get a seal driver set this time) and that's all we need to replace. I asked if I should get a overhaul kit for the pump and tranny (https://globaltransmissionparts.com/...SABEgKzrfD_BwE and https://globaltransmissionparts.com/...pair-seal-kit/) just to have all the gaskets and o-rings. I don't know if that makes sense, if any of those items would fail enough to cause the kind of streaming leak. Someone else mentioned other spots that can leak (like the o-ring near the dipstick) but I can't tell for sure without getting it up on stands, which I plan on this week or next.
I read that this could also be a crack somewhere in the housing, which would be beyond my level of detection. Plus the fluid is streaming out, like about half as fast as I could pour it in. I would have to think it'd be a HUGE crack to do that. It is leaking more now than before we changed the seal so I am thinking that we screwed up the seal. Does that jive with what anyone here thinks? Should I just replace that seal again, driving it in with a proper tool? I think we just used a hammer and tapped it lightly around the whole thing but now I read there is a spring in the seal possibly that could be damaged if installed improperly?
**I guess this is a F250, I thought it was a F200 (I know, there doesn't seem to be that model). It's not a ranger, I know that.
Thanks!
He is coming back up here soon so I wanted to make sure I had whatever parts needed. He says that it is still likely only that pump seal and that is all we need. I figure we didn't install it right (I'll get a seal driver set this time) and that's all we need to replace. I asked if I should get a overhaul kit for the pump and tranny (https://globaltransmissionparts.com/...SABEgKzrfD_BwE and https://globaltransmissionparts.com/...pair-seal-kit/) just to have all the gaskets and o-rings. I don't know if that makes sense, if any of those items would fail enough to cause the kind of streaming leak. Someone else mentioned other spots that can leak (like the o-ring near the dipstick) but I can't tell for sure without getting it up on stands, which I plan on this week or next.
I read that this could also be a crack somewhere in the housing, which would be beyond my level of detection. Plus the fluid is streaming out, like about half as fast as I could pour it in. I would have to think it'd be a HUGE crack to do that. It is leaking more now than before we changed the seal so I am thinking that we screwed up the seal. Does that jive with what anyone here thinks? Should I just replace that seal again, driving it in with a proper tool? I think we just used a hammer and tapped it lightly around the whole thing but now I read there is a spring in the seal possibly that could be damaged if installed improperly?
**I guess this is a F250, I thought it was a F200 (I know, there doesn't seem to be that model). It's not a ranger, I know that.
Thanks!
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Thank you... so are you saying that the o-ring needs to be replaced along with the other seal and if I didn't replace it that it could also be causing the leak?
Do you have any idea where to get these parts? I usually order on amazon but it seems like finding the right parts for older cars is tough as there are many variations.
I would also ask if you wouldn't mind advising on the bushings for suspension. What I see is that at the end of the "a arm" there are some big round rubber bushings that are cracked and dried. This is on the arm towards the rear of the truck (but what I would sort of call control arms or a-arms in a newer car). I am interested in replacing all bushings eventually, so if there is a kit that has body mount and sway bar, etc that would be good. One company said I had to measure the sway bar thickness as there are many variations, which I can easily do, but still unsure what else to get.
Do you have any idea where to get these parts? I usually order on amazon but it seems like finding the right parts for older cars is tough as there are many variations.
I would also ask if you wouldn't mind advising on the bushings for suspension. What I see is that at the end of the "a arm" there are some big round rubber bushings that are cracked and dried. This is on the arm towards the rear of the truck (but what I would sort of call control arms or a-arms in a newer car). I am interested in replacing all bushings eventually, so if there is a kit that has body mount and sway bar, etc that would be good. One company said I had to measure the sway bar thickness as there are many variations, which I can easily do, but still unsure what else to get.
#4
I think it might be:
https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...495113&jsn=612
https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...495113&jsn=621
Yes?
https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...495113&jsn=612
https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...495113&jsn=621
Yes?
#6
I was also trying to figure out which rear seal I had (seems like there are ones with no boot, short boot and long boot... ) do I have to just remove it to find out?
I suppose the question is, should I replace it.. or any other parts while taking it apart again? It shifted fine when it had fluid ... so my stepdad said don't replace anything else. I saw the pump gasket as an option but that seems like taking the pump apart which maybe is unnecessary or maybe there are more parts to replace?
I suppose the question is, should I replace it.. or any other parts while taking it apart again? It shifted fine when it had fluid ... so my stepdad said don't replace anything else. I saw the pump gasket as an option but that seems like taking the pump apart which maybe is unnecessary or maybe there are more parts to replace?
#7
Well, I think it pours out more when the engine is on. I think when it is off there is not much pouring out initially. I started filling it when the engine was off. Then turned it on to get it heated up to measure and I think once I put it in gear and drove it a few feet it started. So, that to me in common sense seems like it would be something that is only under pressure while it is running and not just a drain plug. I don't think it is the plug on the torque converter, fairly sure we put it back in tight, but I did read there was some other plug somewhere up there. I will definitely check that, but I am going to grab the seal anyhow (and the o-ring) to make sure as long as we are dropping it again. I'll check the plug before we drop it, for sure, but I don't think that is it.
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#8
Thank you... so are you saying that the o-ring needs to be replaced along with the other seal and if I didn't replace it that it could also be causing the leak?
O-ring is rubber, it's probably hard as steel by now. Once the pump is removed, the gasket needs to be replaced.
Do you have any idea where to get these parts?
O-ring is rubber, it's probably hard as steel by now. Once the pump is removed, the gasket needs to be replaced.
Do you have any idea where to get these parts?
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#10
I re-sealed my C6 awhile back . I ordered a rebuild kit (TCI i think) and just used the gaskets and seals out of it . it was like $49 so cheapier than buying each seal by it's self .
My trans was leaking mostly from the shift arm . now it's drip free !!
The rear seal was difficult as there's like 5 listed to fit . i posted a thread on this . i'll try to find and post a link to it for you
My trans was leaking mostly from the shift arm . now it's drip free !!
The rear seal was difficult as there's like 5 listed to fit . i posted a thread on this . i'll try to find and post a link to it for you
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B3TZ-7A011-A .. C6 Rear Seal / 3 1/16" O.D. x 2 1/8" I.D. x 11/16" wide.
1968/72 F100/350 / 1973/79 F100/250 4WD / 1979 F350 4WD
4WD not available with A/T until 1973.
Note: Link in post #11 that takes y'all to post #5 in the other thread: WRONG part! E3FZ-7A011-A is an input shaft oil seal for an Escort/Lynx with a MTX 4 speed M/T!
1968/72 F100/350 / 1973/79 F100/250 4WD / 1979 F350 4WD
4WD not available with A/T until 1973.
Note: Link in post #11 that takes y'all to post #5 in the other thread: WRONG part! E3FZ-7A011-A is an input shaft oil seal for an Escort/Lynx with a MTX 4 speed M/T!