2018 edition TorquePro 7.3L PSD Tablet / Phone PID Monitoring
#76
06-29-2018, 08:58 AM
Fleet Mechanic
#77
06-29-2018, 02:32 PM
#78
08-01-2018, 06:28 PM
Fleet Owner
#79
08-02-2018, 07:09 AM
I need to look in there to be sure, but it has been my experience that the PCM works in the metric system (including kPa vs.PSI) - and it's up to the settings in TP to convert it. My main concern is what the gauge reads on the face, and if you look at my screenshots - there's the familiar "F".
#80
08-02-2018, 08:37 AM
Fleet Owner
I agree that the images that you have posted of the EOT are in farenheit.
Although, on the spreadsheet the maximum value is set to 128 and the unit is in celcius (line 19). There are a couple of other odd ***** measurements like that in the spreadsheet too that I have identified.
For example, the unit of measurement on your spreadsheet for InjPW (line 23) is ms when others have it shown as micro seconds including the Ford PID for InjPW.
I have begun adding the Ford specific PID's where I am finding metric settings and values in your PID's in the spreadsheet.
Just wanted to see if there was a specific reason for this or if I was making this harder than it should be.
Thanks
Although, on the spreadsheet the maximum value is set to 128 and the unit is in celcius (line 19). There are a couple of other odd ***** measurements like that in the spreadsheet too that I have identified.
For example, the unit of measurement on your spreadsheet for InjPW (line 23) is ms when others have it shown as micro seconds including the Ford PID for InjPW.
I have begun adding the Ford specific PID's where I am finding metric settings and values in your PID's in the spreadsheet.
Just wanted to see if there was a specific reason for this or if I was making this harder than it should be.
Thanks
#81
08-02-2018, 08:55 AM
.you no how Tug gets. OCD gunna kick in and we'll lose him for 4days til he finds the root cause
. Only then, he'll take anutha 3 days of boating as an antidote for the correction made
...later Tug, hope for calm water and cold 1 an hr beverage
#82
08-02-2018, 09:24 AM
Fleet Owner
I understand and I had second thoughts about posting this information. Although, I too have a certain bit of OCD and was up until 3 AM the other night trying to figure this out.
I am not insisting he fix anything or dive deep into the spreadsheet, but in my opinion there are some inconsistencies in the values and units of measure, or I am just flat out doing something wrong.
Being wrong happens to me all the time, just ask Smeding Diesel...
EDIT: My goal for this adventure into TP is to get good, solid numbers for the modified GTP38 (stock) turbo I have now vs. the Borg Warner 364.5 SX-E that I am about to install. I think the data points like EBP, MAP and EGT's would be nice to have instead of just using my *** to tell much better the truck is running.
I am not insisting he fix anything or dive deep into the spreadsheet, but in my opinion there are some inconsistencies in the values and units of measure, or I am just flat out doing something wrong.
Being wrong happens to me all the time, just ask Smeding Diesel...
EDIT: My goal for this adventure into TP is to get good, solid numbers for the modified GTP38 (stock) turbo I have now vs. the Borg Warner 364.5 SX-E that I am about to install. I think the data points like EBP, MAP and EGT's would be nice to have instead of just using my *** to tell much better the truck is running.
#84
08-02-2018, 09:45 AM
Fleet Owner
#85
08-21-2018, 01:08 PM
Posting Guru
Hooboy.... First... I am deeply flattered that I am regarded so highly, and I thank you for your kind words. Saying that, I suffered a bit of 7.3 burnout last year, and returned to my boating hobby with what little spare time I have. I still log in to hang out with the good and decent folk here, and chime in with the stuff that easy to answer quickly - like posting links to thorough answers. In addition to that... it's best to allow everybody here to assist. There are many here with the same answers I have, and there are those who exceed my knowledge.
You absolutely came to the right place (FTE) if the goal was to get in-depth answers to your questions, not get talked into spending more money than absolutely necessary, and be treated with decency and respect (no trolls allowed here).
You absolutely came to the right place (FTE) if the goal was to get in-depth answers to your questions, not get talked into spending more money than absolutely necessary, and be treated with decency and respect (no trolls allowed here).
It happened to me. I took the ol 7.3 break. I went to turn my cargo trailer into a living camper and started camp hosting in Big Sur Ca. I'm trying to get back on the train here and rebuild my PID system as I had to get a new tablet. Hope all is well.
#86
08-21-2018, 01:16 PM
Fleet Owner
#87
08-22-2018, 06:49 AM
#88
08-22-2018, 07:45 AM
Fleet Owner
You're not hurting my feelings here... I know this is a grand experiment and I don't have all the answers. I preface all my PID threads with warnings of that ilk. When I started this journey... there was very little information anywhere - and what existed was scattered all over the web. Much of it was inaccurate with default formulas showing the wrong values when compared with AE (pre-FORScan). Some of the information was in different math "code", and I had to translate it to plain math. The list is now compiled, vastly more accurate, and easier to interpret - but it still needs some help from dedicated experimenters like yourself.
How were you coming about these PID's?
Perhaps those of us willing to work with TP and massage it into a good product instead of something that needs to be worked over a few times before it becomes a good product can assist in building your list.
#90
08-23-2018, 12:22 AM
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I'm uncertain what the difficulty is that folks are experiencing with IAT in Torque Pro for the 7.3L. On my 2003 with manual trans, I use the app's internally-provided "Intake Air Temperature" PID without issue; no configuration required. The gauge works correctly and closely mirrors both the EOT and MAT gauge's displayed temperatures when the engine is cold.
With KOEO > Open "Real Time Information" > Press and hold a blank spot on the screen > Add display > Wait until the PIDs which are active on the system turn bright green and display a digital value > select Intake Air Temperature