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Old Jan 10, 2018 | 10:14 AM
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Regular Axle vs others

I'm looking at basic F-150 XL 4x4 work/hunting truck and keep bumping into regular axle option. My question is "what am I giving up ?"
 
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Old Jan 10, 2018 | 10:40 AM
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Welcome to the forum!

Regular axle option is a non-limited slip aka "open" differential. The other axle option is an electronic locker, good for low speeds when you are stuck.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2018 | 10:59 AM
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Thanks Robbgt. I think I understand. With a regular axle, when I engage 4 wheel drive, only one rear wheel and one front wheel are pulling, right? And since I don't have limited slip, the pulling wheels do not switch back and forth when they bite.
Thanks for your patience. I am old and my processors are outdated.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2018 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by lowtide
Thanks Robbgt. I think I understand. With a regular axle, when I engage 4 wheel drive, only one rear wheel and one front wheel are pulling, right? And since I don't have limited slip, the pulling wheels do not switch back and forth when they bite.
Thanks for your patience. I am old and my processors are outdated.
you are correct, however - the traction control systems on the new trucks does a pretty good job getting power where it needs to be. Not sure if the system individually brakes the wheel with less traction to move power to the other side? Someone who is more well read into the software can chime in.

With the electronic locker, you have both rear wheels spinning at the same speed. This can be used at lower speeds if you're stuck. I have an E-locker on my truck and in 50k miles, I've used it a handful of times (mainly in deep snow)
 
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Old Jan 10, 2018 | 09:45 PM
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When you need it you need it. But ask yourself how often do you anticipate you will be driving around in wet slippery stuff or at the beach. If the answer is seldom you could probably save yourself a few bucks and skip it. Personally though I would not own a truck with an open differential in the rear.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2018 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by lowtide
Thanks Robbgt. I think I understand. With a regular axle, when I engage 4 wheel drive, only one rear wheel and one front wheel are pulling, right? And since I don't have limited slip, the pulling wheels do not switch back and forth when they bite.
That's an extremely common misconception of how an open differential works.

An open differential splits torque exactly evenly between the two wheels; it does this because the spider gears that connect to the axle shafts are the same size. But the nature of the gearset will not permit uneven torque, so if one wheel slips it is capable of receiving less torque than the other, and the torque to both is reduced evenly. This is why you can get stuck with one wheel on dry pavement; the slipping wheel accelerates without accepting much torque at all, which limits the other wheel.

With an open differential, both wheels are pulling with exactly the same amount of force, which is limited to the one with the least amount of traction.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2018 | 05:17 AM
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Old video but still relevant.

But, even as fast as their wheels are spinning, the Ford E-locker will kick you back into an open diff and still be useless. I believe it kicks out at 35 MPH.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...7lQWtyfTnnEnJ_
 
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Old Jan 11, 2018 | 05:29 AM
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could just get stock open and add a mechanical locker to it like a detroit later for 500 bucks
 
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Old Jan 11, 2018 | 12:08 PM
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Our 2018 electronic locker says not to engage it with the button unless off pavement. i don't remember the 2013 have that. I'm smart enough to follow instructions.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2018 | 12:29 PM
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could just get stock open and add a mechanical locker to it like a detroit later for 500 bucks
The parts for the locker alone are more then $500, not to mention gear oil and labor.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2018 | 12:50 PM
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Thanks to all of you for the input. I will definitely buy with an electronic locking axle not a regular axle.
It will probably never be used riding in the sand when surf fishing on the Outer banks but will be comforting when riding the muddy fire trails and rutted up logging roads in the mountains of Virginia.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2018 | 01:14 PM
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The parts for the locker alone are more then $500, not to mention gear oil and labor.

depends on what mechanical locker you get and whats available for that axle, and this stuff is easy to do yourself, no sense paying some guy to instal a locker in a open differential, you dont need to set gears up or anything.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2018 | 02:01 PM
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Our 2018 electronic locker says not to engage it with the button unless off pavement. i don't remember the 2013 have that. I'm smart enough to follow instructions.
2013 had the same warning as well:
 
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Isn't the 8.8 the "regular" axle for smaller and lower rated F150 configurations? And the crew cabs with bigger motors that get the 9.75?
 
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Old Jan 11, 2018 | 02:29 PM
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Isn't the 8.8 the "regular" axle for smaller and lower rated F150 configurations? And the crew cabs with bigger motors that get the 9.75?
9.75 is for the max tow package. Has nothing to do with engine size.
 
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