Water Separator Drain Valve Broken. - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums

Go Back  Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums > Super Duty/Heavy Duty > 2017+ Super Duty
Reload this Page >

Water Separator Drain Valve Broken.

Notices
2017+ Super Duty The 2017+ Ford F250, F350, F450 and F550 Super Duty Pickup and Chassis Cab

Water Separator Drain Valve Broken.

  #1  
Old 01-03-2018, 07:40 PM
huckle_berry
huckle_berry is offline
New User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Eastern Sierra
Posts: 11
huckle_berry is starting off with a positive reputation.
Water Separator Drain Valve Broken.

I went out to the shop thismorning and crawled under my truck to drain the water separator for the first time. Opened the valve and began to drain some fuel out into a big glass pickle jar. Made the rookie mistake and waited until the jar was just about full before I started closing the valve. As I was getting a shower in good ol' #2, I fumbled with the valve to get it shut. I turned it clockwise and CRACK. I broke off one of the little plastic ears/pins that rides in the grooves of fuel filter housing bottom. Fortunately it's keeping fuel from dribbling out but I wouldn't dare start the truck up, let alone drive it with the drain valve/plug barely holding on. Once my shower was over, I looked closer at the design of the drain valve. I realized that when the drain valve is in the OPEN position, it actually drops out of the tapered grooves. The correct method of closing it requires you to push up on the drain valve and then turning it clockwise until it seats. Called up the dealer and ordered 2 drain valve/plugs part number HC3Z-9J305-A. Figured I would order a second one to have as a spare. Learn from my mistakes. Don't wait until your jar is darn near overflowing before trying to close the valve and push the valve up into its groves before attempting to close it.
 
  #2  
Old 01-03-2018, 07:58 PM
huckle_berry
huckle_berry is offline
New User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Eastern Sierra
Posts: 11
huckle_berry is starting off with a positive reputation.
The arrow is pointing to the pin that broke off.
 
  #3  
Old 01-03-2018, 08:19 PM
CBEllis's Avatar
CBEllis
CBEllis is online now
Senior User
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: East Texas
Posts: 354
CBEllis is starting off with a positive reputation.
Great education here - many thanks for allowing us to learn from your mistakes. Thanks for taking the time.
 
  #4  
Old 01-03-2018, 08:51 PM
cficare's Avatar
cficare
cficare is online now
Posting Guru
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: The 7-Cities, VA
Posts: 2,257
cficare has a good reputation on FTE.cficare has a good reputation on FTE.
+1 ... THANKS for sharing!
 
  #5  
Old 01-03-2018, 11:10 PM
wrvond's Avatar
wrvond
wrvond is online now
Posting Guru
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: West Virginia
Posts: 2,097
wrvond has a very good reputation on FTE.wrvond has a very good reputation on FTE.wrvond has a very good reputation on FTE.wrvond has a very good reputation on FTE.
Most helpful post of the day.
Thanks!
 
  #6  
Old 01-03-2018, 11:54 PM
screwy's Avatar
screwy
screwy is online now
Posting Guru
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Over Yonder, MN
Posts: 2,030
screwy has a good reputation on FTE.screwy has a good reputation on FTE.
I was just draining mine this weekend and mine fell out too, much to my surprise as diesel poured all over. I've drained it several times and never had it fall out. Luckily I was able to catch it and get it back in, but that's not a fun surprise when you have just a little bottle.
 
  #7  
Old 01-04-2018, 07:48 AM
troverman's Avatar
troverman
troverman is offline
Post Fiend
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: NH
Posts: 9,249
troverman has much to be proud oftroverman has much to be proud oftroverman has much to be proud oftroverman has much to be proud oftroverman has much to be proud oftroverman has much to be proud oftroverman has much to be proud oftroverman has much to be proud oftroverman has much to be proud of
The previous generation design (2011-2016 trucks) had a more secure valve, but it was harder to open. This one is very easy. I've had no problems with mine.
 
  #8  
Old 01-04-2018, 09:55 AM
porthole's Avatar
porthole
porthole is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,428
porthole has a great reputation on FTE.porthole has a great reputation on FTE.porthole has a great reputation on FTE.porthole has a great reputation on FTE.porthole has a great reputation on FTE.
Originally Posted by troverman View Post
The previous generation design (2011-2016 trucks) had a more secure valve, but it was harder to open. This one is very easy. I've had no problems with mine.

And you still got diesel fuel all over your hands.

I don't get why the drain can't have piping that would allow the actual drain to be remote from the valve.
 
  #9  
Old 01-04-2018, 10:24 AM
troverman's Avatar
troverman
troverman is offline
Post Fiend
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: NH
Posts: 9,249
troverman has much to be proud oftroverman has much to be proud oftroverman has much to be proud oftroverman has much to be proud oftroverman has much to be proud oftroverman has much to be proud oftroverman has much to be proud oftroverman has much to be proud oftroverman has much to be proud of
Originally Posted by porthole View Post
And you still got diesel fuel all over your hands.

I don't get why the drain can't have piping that would allow the actual drain to be remote from the valve.
Agree completely! I thought for sure the drain valve on the previous generation would not allow fuel to come out *at* the valve itself, but it does!
 
  #10  
Old 01-04-2018, 10:27 AM
Blwnsmoke
Blwnsmoke is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,153
Blwnsmoke is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.Blwnsmoke is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
Water settles to the bottom. Only need to drain half a baby food jar. No need to fill a pickle jar.
 
  #11  
Old 01-04-2018, 10:49 AM
Buliwyf
Buliwyf is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 1,441
Buliwyf is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.Buliwyf is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
What a stupid design.

How about righty tighty lefty loosey. Naw, we'll re-engineer it so you have to push up and do the Macarena at the same time.
 
  #12  
Old 01-04-2018, 10:59 AM
travlingman
travlingman is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 145
travlingman is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.travlingman is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
Mine broke off last time I changed it. How do you go about replacing? Not near truck now and wondered what I needed to do, especially to keep more diesel from pouring out.
 
  #13  
Old 01-04-2018, 01:34 PM
f350ktm's Avatar
f350ktm
f350ktm is offline
Elder User
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Rural Northern California
Posts: 515
f350ktm is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
Thanks to the OP for posting this, great information!
 
  #14  
Old 01-04-2018, 03:08 PM
stewy604's Avatar
stewy604
stewy604 is offline
Elder User
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 703
stewy604 is starting off with a positive reputation.
Thanks for sharing...I'll be draining mine soon (8,000 kms on the odo).
 
  #15  
Old 01-04-2018, 05:55 PM
Nick77584
Nick77584 is offline
Junior User
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 73
Nick77584 is starting off with a positive reputation.
Originally Posted by Blwnsmoke View Post
Water settles to the bottom. Only need to drain half a baby food jar. No need to fill a pickle jar.
Unless you are changing the filter; then you get to see the diesel wasted.
 

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Water Separator Drain Valve Broken.


Contact Us Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service

© 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands

We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.