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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 03:27 PM
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2018 Superduty - Lane Keeping system is worthless

FYI, before you order this option.

So I have the lane keeping system on a 150 and a Fusion and the Lane Keeping System in both of these vehicles can be configured to "Assist" or nudge you with slight steering pressure back into your lane should you drift. It actually works quite well.

Enter the Superduty.
I learned the hard way that Ford in all of its wisdom sells a disabled version of this on the Superduty's that only has the option to send a slight vibration through the steering wheel to alert you should you drift, it will not give you the "nudge" that might get your attention. It is apparent that the engineers behind this system may have never driven a Superduty, and do not realize that this is a heavy duty truck which does not ride like a Cadillac, so if the road you drive is not paved like a mirror you will not notice if the vibration is from the road or the system. I live in Florida so we don't even have the potholes like the northern folks, but our roads are always under construction and this system is not worth .02 in the SD.

P.S. - GMC / Chevy will at least make the seat vibrate which is far better than making a already shaking steering wheel shake.....
 
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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 03:30 PM
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Should have bought an XL.

(LOL, that's going to be my canned response to every useless widget failure) Is there no orange dash light or anything?
 
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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 03:32 PM
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Thats because the superduty doesn't have electric assist, like the 150 and fusion do. Just standard hydraulic power steering. I usually keep the lane asdist ofc in my fusion anyways, I hate fighting it when entering oof ramps or interchanges.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 03:36 PM
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Lane keep assist? I'm sure my F450 Platty has it but I have no idea of it's on or off. I use the mirrors to make sure I'm in the lane.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by pavman
FYI, before you order this option.

So I have the lane keeping system on a 150 and a Fusion and the Lane Keeping System in both of these vehicles can be configured to "Assist" or nudge you with slight steering pressure back into your lane should you drift. It actually works quite well.

Enter the Superduty.
I learned the hard way that Ford in all of its wisdom sells a disabled version of this on the Superduty's that only has the option to send a slight vibration through the steering wheel to alert you should you drift, it will not give you the "nudge" that might get your attention. It is apparent that the engineers behind this system may have never driven a Superduty, and do not realize that this is a heavy duty truck which does not ride like a Cadillac, so if the road you drive is not paved like a mirror you will not notice if the vibration is from the road or the system. I live in Florida so we don't even have the potholes like the northern folks, but our roads are always under construction and this system is not worth .02 in the SD.

P.S. - GMC / Chevy will at least make the seat vibrate which is far better than making a already shaking steering wheel shake.....
Amen brother!...first thing i hated about driving this truck. wheel already shakes on bumps with the stiff suspension. To be expected of course. Gotta get rid of the LDW for sure.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 04:23 PM
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If you don't like it, just turn it off. Button on the dash above the radio.

As already stated, it can't nudge you over because the SD does NOT have electric power steering.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 04:29 PM
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I wouldn't say its worthless but yeah it doesn't work as well as other vehicles with the same type of feature. My wifes vehicle keeps her in her lane. Personally I think its annoying as heck. If you ever try to change a land without a blinker the dang thing keeps you from doing so. I don't use the feature every day but I do when I'm hauling to help me keep everything in my lane. You could buy a Tesla and take a nap while you drive if you want haha, I'd like to have one too
 
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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 04:51 PM
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Not saying you do this but the "texting/smart phone" generation loves the lane departure and auto stop features. Lets them keep on texting with their heads down and let the car keep itself in the lane and stop on its own. More time to update their twitbook status.


 
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Originally Posted by GT4point6
Not saying you do this but the "texting/smart phone" generation loves the lane departure and auto stop features. Lets them keep on texting with their heads down and let the car keep itself in the lane and stop on its own. More time to update their twatbook status.


FIFY lol
 
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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by fordmantpw
If you don't like it, just turn it off. Button on the dash above the radio.

As already stated, it can't nudge you over because the SD does NOT have electric power steering.


What is the adaptive steering? Is it not electric assist?


Sam
 
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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 06:29 PM
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so much of this new **** i will never buy
 
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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 06:46 PM
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I drive a lot and don't find it as annoying as the GM butt-bumpers...
Doesn't seem to me to be anywhere near the vibration from the road surface.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 06:56 PM
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FYI, you can change the vibration intensity of the wheel in the settings menus, high medium and low if I recall.

As for the feature, Ive turned that, and the crash avoidance off (beeping, and red light reflected in the windshield).
 
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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SESWIM
What is the adaptive steering? Is it not electric assist?


Sam

The way I understand it on my 17 Platinum is the adaptive steering continually adjusts the ratio between the steering wheel input and the rotation of the front wheels using an electric motor with computer input and a gear unit to amplify the steering wheel’s rotation based on wheel angle.

It is suppose to help reduce the steering effort by tightening up the steering ratio depending upon speed (only works at slow speed) and steering angle, Ford states it can reduce up to one steering wheel rotation.

Not sure I have noticed it yet but I have not towed anything with my truck.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 08:14 PM
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Not looking to be an ***, but this is definitely a reading comprehension problem, and rightly so because Ford communicates this type of thing in really poor language.

As we move into more and more active assist features and automation in our vehicles, it is REALLY important to understand how the language surrounding these systems work. Keep in mind, every clown in a marketing department wants you to think that you're getting the best product possible, when in fact you're just getting what engineering can do with the money they're allowed to use.

Here's the basics of how not to get hoodwinked by the marketing department.

Passive systems: us the words 'alert' and 'warning'. These don't imply that the car is going to do anything other than LET YOU KNOW that you've done something a system is monitoring for. Aside from being more time sensitive, functionally it isn't really any different than the low fuel light.
Active systems: 'assist', 'aid', etc. These words clearly state that the vehicle is going to HELP YOU correct the issue that it has detected. Most often these systems are stacked on top of the passive systems' features using onboard hardware to help you stay in your lane or whatever the system in question monitors.

An example I can give of this is also on our Super Duty - adaptive cruise control. The actual language that Ford uses is "adaptive cruise control and collision warning with brake support." Note the way they present it as brake support (active system) stacked on top of the collision warning (passive system). Thankfully in this situation they put 'brake support' in the name, but as we see so often it just isn't very clear.

All that said, I'll return to Ford sucks at language. Somebody in marketing ought to get smacked for not better clarifying between Lane Keep Assist and Lane Keep Alert. In my world, nobody has a passive system and an active system that could have the same acronym.

Sorry you didn't get the option you thought you were going to.

-bill
 
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