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Old Dec 26, 2017 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by River Wild
I find it ironic that some manufacturers would ask, "Hubs? What are hubs? our system has no hubs."
My '07 Titan had no hubs to lock/unlock. There were always locked. I suspect that my Titan could have had .5 to 1.0 better MPG if I had hubs that could unlock. On the plus side, I didn't have to worry about wheel caps fitting.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2017 | 10:42 AM
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Its great that some of you don't need to use 4 wheel drive on the highway. I live in a place where snow/ice covered highways are normal for months at a time! I also have a job that has me travelling hundreds of km a week on these highways. 4 wheel drive is an absolute necessity. I am comfortable with my own driving in 2 wheel drive on these roads and where 4by really helps is the sudden swerving you have to do when out of control vehicles come hurling at you, out of control, at highway speeds!! And this happens often!
 
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Old Dec 26, 2017 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by eberlestock
Its great that some of you don't need to use 4 wheel drive on the highway. I live in a place where snow/ice covered highways are normal for months at a time! I also have a job that has me travelling hundreds of km a week on these highways. 4 wheel drive is an absolute necessity. I am comfortable with my own driving in 2 wheel drive on these roads and where 4by really helps is the sudden swerving you have to do when out of control vehicles come hurling at you, out of control, at highway speeds!! And this happens often!
I get a chuckle at those comments as well. Being in 4-hi will prevent going sideways if you happen to apply more power than traction permits on snow covered roads. Most of us in Minnesota are comfortable substantially faster than 20 MPH on packed snow.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2017 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by J Standard
It is a $0 option for 2018 XL Super Duty's.

The general public is to stupid to actually lock in hubs and shift a lever...
While I wouldn’t use the term “stupid” I will say I got the ESOTF option specifically for my wife. If she had to lock hubs manually and use a shift stick to get into 4WD she wouldnt be happy.

Our SUV and previous SUV have automatic full time AWD so it’s dummy proof and convenient
 
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Old Dec 26, 2017 | 04:23 PM
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You can keep the hubs locked and just use the lever to engage 4x4 when you need it, I keep mine locked all winter.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2017 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by J Standard
The general public is to stupid to actually lock in hubs and shift a lever...
TOO stupid, not “to” stupid.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2017 | 08:56 PM
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Whining in mine is in-sync with acceleration/deceleration with a metallic type humming. No issue with clunk or loud noises. Different than previous fords. Riding with a ford mechanic this morning to try and pinpoint it.
Devildog95 that’s the same thing I’m hearing as well. Please let me know if the mechanic can figure it out. Thanks!
 
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Old Dec 26, 2017 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan B.
TOO stupid, not “to” stupid.

Doesn't matter how you spell it when I have to take a shovel to dig out a truck after telling the guy to make sure he locks the hubs in before he leaves the shop...

I grew up with real 4wd so not a big deal to me but the general population only knows how to turn a **** and make it go...

Having said that I will gladly take the electric shift as then I don't have to worry about my kids kicking the 4wd shifter.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2017 | 08:08 AM
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I get a chuckle at those comments as well. Being in 4-hi will prevent going sideways if you happen to apply more power than traction permits on snow covered roads. Most of us in Minnesota are comfortable substantially faster than 20 MPH on packed snow.
I agree, and I am in MN too. If I think I may lose traction, I have it in 4WD on the interstate too. But I am not going 60 MPH.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2017 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by J Standard
Doesn't matter how you spell it when I have to take a shovel to dig out a truck after telling the guy to make sure he locks the hubs in before he leaves the shop...

I grew up with real 4wd so not a big deal to me but the general population only knows how to turn a **** and make it go...

Having said that I will gladly take the electric shift as then I don't have to worry about my kids kicking the 4wd shifter.
Rode with the service mgr and he acknowledged the whining sound. We then drove another new, identical to mine, truck from the lot and it did the same thing. So it's likely that it's normal and I guess time will tell if it's an actual problem or just the way it is.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2017 | 09:07 AM
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That sounds right.

The last Super Duty I've ever driven that DIDN'T have a whine was my '08.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2017 | 11:23 AM
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Does anyone know if there is a limit to how fast you can go in 4H?
 
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Old Dec 30, 2017 | 12:43 PM
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Many misinformed people here.

There is zero harm in engaging 4H at any speed so long as you are not spinning your rear wheels. There is no speed limit to how fast you can go in 4x4. The transfer case surely doesn’t care.

2017 trucks use a new type of transfer case which does have a clutch to smooth engagement and disengagement. When the hubs engage and spin up, there can be a clunk. Nothing is harmed. The clutch in the transfer case actually allows more leeway for the driver to be on the gas during engagement.

I frequently click in and out of 4x4 at interstate speeds if conditions warrant.
 
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Old Jan 1, 2018 | 10:10 PM
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My 17 F250 Platinum makes that slight whistling sound at speed in 4x4 as well. Annoying, but less so now that I know how to make it stop. Any ideas where the sound comes from exactly?
 
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Old Jan 2, 2018 | 08:51 AM
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My 17 F250 Platinum makes that slight whistling sound at speed in 4x4 as well. Annoying, but less so now that I know how to make it stop. Any ideas where the sound comes from exactly?
Probably the spinning of drivetrain components you normally don't hear because they normally aren't moving. I wouldn't call mine a whistle, but rather a slight whine.
 
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