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Old Dec 23, 2017 | 10:26 AM
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Live axle check straps?

Now that I have the frame complete with suspension, engine trans etc I remember when I built my Factory Five Roadster that the rear axle (Fox body 8.8”) was installed with a check strap across the rear shack absorbers:



I have never seen this on any of our truck builds or even discussed. It obviously prevents over travel of the shock absorber and when the truck is jacked up the weight of the axle is on the strap not the shock itself. Any comments/thoughts?

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Old Dec 23, 2017 | 02:24 PM
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Looks to be an after market coil over shock. It may very will be the shock has no internal bump stops and the axle strap is needed to limit over travel. Axel straps were used in many older vehicles such as Alfa's MG's and Landrovers.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2017 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by matthewq4b
Looks to be an after market coil over shock. It may very will be the shock has no internal bump stops and the axle strap is needed to limit over travel. Axel straps were used in many older vehicles such as Alfa's MG's and Landrovers.
They use them on off road 4x4's as well. Mostly on racing chassis that have long shocks and suspension travel. I don't think I've ever seen them on a street vehicle. I'm not saying they're not out there, just that I haven't seen them.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2017 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by EffieTrucker
They use them on off road 4x4's as well. Mostly on racing chassis that have long shocks and suspension travel.
Yes they do, but they are used to limit axle articulation, primarily for rock crawlers, so not really applicable to the question posed, as why they were used in this instance.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2017 | 06:31 PM
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From a rigger's point of view those crimped cable ends won't hold too much more than axle weight. A good strap would have looped or swaged ends and forged eyes.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2017 | 06:40 AM
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From a rigger's point of view those crimped cable ends won't hold too much more than axle weight. A good strap would have looped or swaged ends and forged eyes.
I agree, there is little to no strength in the design of that cable. I only see it useful when changing a tire.
 
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Thanks for the feedback, appreciate the comments on the relative strength of the crimped wire. In general though, do you believe the standard shock absorber is designed to hold the weight of the rear axle when the frame is raised?

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Old Dec 24, 2017 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JTB321
Thanks for the feedback, appreciate the comments on the relative strength of the crimped wire. In general though, do you believe the standard shock absorber is designed to hold the weight of the rear axle when the frame is raised?

John
Sure, I believe the shock absorber would hold the weight of the axle.
My thinking is the cable may be in place to limit downward travel of the axle, maybe to keep tension off brake lines and or cables ect.
 
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Originally Posted by JTB321
Thanks for the feedback, appreciate the comments on the relative strength of the crimped wire. In general though, do you believe the standard shock absorber is designed to hold the weight of the rear axle when the frame is raised?

John
Most modern shocks are designed to take full extension loading.
Until the demise of the solid rear coil spring axle in cars it was the shocks that were the limiter for axle travel. Some times even with leaf springs the shocks were the travel limiters

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Just to be sure I’ll call Aldan this week to see what they advise about taking the weight of the axle on an extended shock, I’ll feedback......
 
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