Am I overthinking this?
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Am I overthinking this?
Being up here in the "peoples republic on Connecticut" where guns kill people and the person behind it is innocent" and the belief is "if I we ban it no one will use it"
It does snow up here. the '86 is now put away for the winter. being carbureted with the "EPA" happy ethanol gas, I was thinking of installing a two-tank manual gas line valve before the manual fuel pump. Since the truck only has one tank, the second port would be capped.... until its time for winter storage.
For storage, flip the valve to the other port and suck non-ethanol gas from a can on the garage floor. run the truck long enough to fill the gas line, carb bowl, and run a few minutes to get all the ethanol out.
then switch back to the gas-tank line and seal off the second port again.
this way any gas sitting in the carb for the winter is ethanol free...
Thoughts?
It does snow up here. the '86 is now put away for the winter. being carbureted with the "EPA" happy ethanol gas, I was thinking of installing a two-tank manual gas line valve before the manual fuel pump. Since the truck only has one tank, the second port would be capped.... until its time for winter storage.
For storage, flip the valve to the other port and suck non-ethanol gas from a can on the garage floor. run the truck long enough to fill the gas line, carb bowl, and run a few minutes to get all the ethanol out.
then switch back to the gas-tank line and seal off the second port again.
this way any gas sitting in the carb for the winter is ethanol free...
Thoughts?
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That sounds great! I am too lazy I guess.
I would pour this in and call it good.
https://lucasoil.com/products/fuel-t...th-stabilizers
When I had a motorcycle and also for my lawn equipment I buy clear fuel from a gas station with dedicated storage for it. And always put StaBil or an equivalent in the 5 gallon can so it's storage ready.
After a trip on the motorcycle using ethanol fuel I would use the Lucas.
I would pour this in and call it good.
https://lucasoil.com/products/fuel-t...th-stabilizers
When I had a motorcycle and also for my lawn equipment I buy clear fuel from a gas station with dedicated storage for it. And always put StaBil or an equivalent in the 5 gallon can so it's storage ready.
After a trip on the motorcycle using ethanol fuel I would use the Lucas.
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I never used Stabil when I was up there when I laid up a car for winter and never had any issues but then again I don't remember having the ethanol gas at that time?
I should add Stabil to my generator, I have it just not added to the tank yet.
The gen set comes with a fuel shut off valve to the carb so I did close it and ran it out of fuel.
As for the garden tractor it does not sit that long over winter down here to worry about it same with the weed whacker and blower.
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I should add Stabil to my generator, I have it just not added to the tank yet.
The gen set comes with a fuel shut off valve to the carb so I did close it and ran it out of fuel.
As for the garden tractor it does not sit that long over winter down here to worry about it same with the weed whacker and blower.
Dave ----
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Today's fuel is certainly different from what we had years ago. Seems like it goes bad faster, etc. I am not convinced that fuel stabilizer is effective, but recently there has been a rather costly product sold by cans for small engines that see infrequent use and my experience with this type of fuel has been pretty positive. Anybody tried this for winter storage?
Just last week, I needed to fire up my winter stored Rambler. It can be difficult to start due to fuel drain back after it sits for a while, but I always was able to start the car in spring without any special fuel preparation. The weather was hovering around the freezing point and I was unable to get it running. The stale gas smell was strong and the car last ran in October. Probably need to reassess my storage practice, but it is a reminder of the current quality of our fuel.
Just last week, I needed to fire up my winter stored Rambler. It can be difficult to start due to fuel drain back after it sits for a while, but I always was able to start the car in spring without any special fuel preparation. The weather was hovering around the freezing point and I was unable to get it running. The stale gas smell was strong and the car last ran in October. Probably need to reassess my storage practice, but it is a reminder of the current quality of our fuel.
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The local small engine repair place does sell non-ethanol storage gas, but it's $22.50 a Gallon
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I never used Stabil when I was up there when I laid up a car for winter and never had any issues but then again I don't remember having the ethanol gas at that time?
I should add Stabil to my generator, I have it just not added to the tank yet.
The gen set comes with a fuel shut off valve to the carb so I did close it and ran it out of fuel.
As for the garden tractor it does not sit that long over winter down here to worry about it same with the weed whacker and blower.
Dave ----
I should add Stabil to my generator, I have it just not added to the tank yet.
The gen set comes with a fuel shut off valve to the carb so I did close it and ran it out of fuel.
As for the garden tractor it does not sit that long over winter down here to worry about it same with the weed whacker and blower.
Dave ----
Iv'e been told by a few people, that closing a shut off valve and running it dry (stalls)there is still gas in the carb, this is what turns into the shellac-type corrosion that can mess up carbs, Ideally we need to Flush the carb with a non-ethanol and store it "wet"
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I got to have something to do (carb rebuild) when the power goes out before I can use the gen set LOL
I keep saying to myself I got to do something to it......one day.
On the car the only thing I had happen was the squirter plugged up from sitting.
I used a wire filler gauge and was able to poke it open and all was good.
Dave ----
I keep saying to myself I got to do something to it......one day.
On the car the only thing I had happen was the squirter plugged up from sitting.
I used a wire filler gauge and was able to poke it open and all was good.
Dave ----
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HI Dave
Iv'e been told by a few people, that closing a shut off valve and running it dry (stalls)there is still gas in the carb, this is what turns into the shellac-type corrosion that can mess up carbs, Ideally we need to Flush the carb with a non-ethanol and store it "wet"
Iv'e been told by a few people, that closing a shut off valve and running it dry (stalls)there is still gas in the carb, this is what turns into the shellac-type corrosion that can mess up carbs, Ideally we need to Flush the carb with a non-ethanol and store it "wet"
The fuel stabilizers also make a difference in my experience, how long they will last I don't know. I would thinka good dose in the tank and then running it some to get it to the carb would possibly hold you through one winter.
In Connecticut I would check the places were people fill their boats. They usually have the regular fuel also. Down here we can get it many places, it's about 20-30 cents higher than the ethanol fuel. What the tree huggers fail to admit, you will get about 2-3 miles per gallon more in fuel mileage with the regular fuel. So you are using more fuel when you use the ethanol. The higher cost can be a wash down here with the price we pay versus the higher fuel mileage.
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Marinas may have some. If memory serves me Connecticut is close to the coast.
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I'll chime in. Don't take my words for Gospel truth as I am nowhere near your (form folk) level of experience.
However... I'm in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. Nicknamed "Winterpeg". We dont call it really cold here until it his minus 40. And most cars start just fine, aside from weak battery issues... Even after sitting for an extended period of time. I never drain my lawnmower or snowblower, for example. We do get "winter gas" at the pump in many locations. Not sure what that entails.
So... Maybe make a trip over the border, fill 'r up and don't worry about winter storage?
However... I'm in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. Nicknamed "Winterpeg". We dont call it really cold here until it his minus 40. And most cars start just fine, aside from weak battery issues... Even after sitting for an extended period of time. I never drain my lawnmower or snowblower, for example. We do get "winter gas" at the pump in many locations. Not sure what that entails.
So... Maybe make a trip over the border, fill 'r up and don't worry about winter storage?
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You might Google "fogging" it's a procedure people do to equipment and boats etc when they are putting them up for winter.
im not exactly sure what it's all about though I do have a can of some seafoam fogger that I brought home not knowing what it was.
im not exactly sure what it's all about though I do have a can of some seafoam fogger that I brought home not knowing what it was.
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HI Dave
Iv'e been told by a few people, that closing a shut off valve and running it dry (stalls)there is still gas in the carb, this is what turns into the shellac-type corrosion that can mess up carbs, Ideally we need to Flush the carb with a non-ethanol and store it "wet"
Iv'e been told by a few people, that closing a shut off valve and running it dry (stalls)there is still gas in the carb, this is what turns into the shellac-type corrosion that can mess up carbs, Ideally we need to Flush the carb with a non-ethanol and store it "wet"
I shut it down the same way, close off the fuel valve and when it started to spit & sputter I put the choke on to burn all the fuel.
I should add stable to it before I put it back in the tractor shed.
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