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My 72 F250 4x4 has a 390 that was originally in a 68 Galaxie. I'm not familiar with 390s. Is there any difference between car 390s and truck 390s?
 
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Old Nov 28, 2017 | 11:28 AM
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Off the top of me head:
Truck FE engines from the factory had a lower compression ratio (8.5:1 ?) than cars (~9.5:1?), but more torque and less overall HP.

Less gross valve lift than cars......not sure of the main webbing being any different...as in the Modified truck vs car engines.

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Pickup truck and car 390's are basically the same, they could have different compression ratio's, cams, timing chain sets, ect which also varies between year models. 391 HD truck engines are a different animal, block has a larger hole for the governored dist shaft and larger oil pump drive, heads, intake, crank, timing set, front timing cover, water pump are all different.
 
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Car 390 for '68 would be 9.5 CR for the 2bbl with a dished piston. 10.5 for the 4bbl with a flat top piston. Compression height for both was approx. 1.77". Pistons were .010-.030 below deck. Cams were probably different. Heads may have had slightly smaller combustion chambers.

Truck 390 had compression in the 8s, maybe 8.2. The piston used in these motors is the same spec as the Mercury 410 piston. The compression height is appox 1.66". Thus the piston is down the hole .100+. Heads with casting code of D2TE would have had hardened valve seats.

How does it run? Any valve train noises?
 
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Old Dec 12, 2017 | 01:34 PM
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Ford published 390 engine specs 1968 full size vs 1972 truck

Originally Posted by Normmus
My 72 F250 4x4 has a 390 that was originally in a 68 Galaxie. I'm not familiar with 390s. Is there any difference between car 390s and truck 390s?
To back up what was already posted above here are a couple of screen shots. Regarding the blocks they are basically the same. The truck blocks did not start getting the extra main saddle reinforcing ribs (mirror 105 blocks) until right around the start of the '73 model year.








 
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Originally Posted by Normmus
My 72 F250 4x4 has a 390 that was originally in a 68 Galaxie. I'm not familiar with 390s. Is there any difference between car 390s and truck 390s?
If you're basing this assumption on the casting numbers on the block, then you're mistaken about it. Pickups and cars got the same block, crank, rods, intake and heads. C8 block would have been used for several years until the next block revision. The only different parts would have been the pistons, camshaft, carb and distributor. Plus the exhaust manifolds. FE's probably had more parts combinations than any other engine line. And you'll never know what's inside one till you take it apart. Are you sure that you have a 390 and not a 360 ? (or something else)
 
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If you're basing this assumption on the casting numbers on the block, then you're mistaken about it. Pickups and cars got the same block, crank, rods, intake and heads. C8 block would have been used for several years until the next block revision. The only different parts would have been the pistons, camshaft, carb and distributor. Plus the exhaust manifolds. FE's probably had more parts combinations than any other engine line. And you'll never know what's inside one till you take it apart. Are you sure that you have a 390 and not a 360 ? (or something else)
I haven't checked out any casting numbers yet. Mainly I am curious about the differences in the event that I need parts. It does have a 4 barrel carb, and I only have the info provided by the previous owner that it was swapped in from a galaxie.
 
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Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod
Car 390 for '68 would be 9.5 CR for the 2bbl with a dished piston. 10.5 for the 4bbl with a flat top piston. Compression height for both was approx. 1.77". Pistons were .010-.030 below deck. Cams were probably different. Heads may have had slightly smaller combustion chambers.

Truck 390 had compression in the 8s, maybe 8.2. The piston used in these motors is the same spec as the Mercury 410 piston. The compression height is appox 1.66". Thus the piston is down the hole .100+. Heads with casting code of D2TE would have had hardened valve seats.

How does it run? Any valve train noises?
Thanks for that info. It runs very well, no unusual noises. Although I think it leaks from every gasket.
 
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Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod
Car 390 for '68 would be 9.5 CR for the 2bbl with a dished piston. 10.5 for the 4bbl with a flat top piston. Compression height for both was approx. 1.77". Pistons were .010-.030 below deck. Cams were probably different. Heads may have had slightly smaller combustion chamber
There was also a premium fuel 2 bbl 390 as well. These were installed in Mercurys. My old 68 Monterey had one. Same engine as the 4 bbl Ford 390 that year, only with a 2 bbl intake and carb.
 
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Originally Posted by Normmus
I haven't checked out any casting numbers yet. Mainly I am curious about the differences in the event that I need parts. It does have a 4 barrel carb, and I only have the info provided by the previous owner that it was swapped in from a galaxie.
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At this point in time, the only sure way to know is to take it apart. Could be any combination of parts there. Heads are easy to Id, the casting numbers are between the two middle spark plugs. You can Id the piston type with a bore scope thru the spark plug holes. The stroke is a little harder but can be measured pretty close by sticking a rod in the spark plug holes and rotating the crank and doing the math to figure the stroke.
 
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