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Yep small she is at 36"
 
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I agree, small radius front fender. I bought a copy of that book and just have to wait for it to be delivered.

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I agree, small radius front fender. I bought a copy of that book and just have to wait for it to be delivered.

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Let us know if the book is worthwhile. If it is I'll add it to my collection.
 
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Looks like it has the standard radius front fenders on it? It could have been a dealer conversion on a new truck. It wouldn't have been to hard for a dealer to order the parts from Ford and bolt them on to a 2wd truck.
Even today there are companies building 4x4s conversion vehicles that you can buy new from a dealer with a warranty. 50 years from now there will be guys looking at old pictures wondering if Ford ever built 4x4 vans.
You are looking at pre production factory photos. The unibody 4x4 was a test unit, never released to the public as a standard production unit. I wouldn't be surprised if there F 350 unibody test unit photos out there as well. Notice the 2wd F 100 ( lower photo ) has '57-'60 style hubcaps, futher indication these are early pre production photos. About the fenders, Ford kept changing the 4x4 rules. Small radius fenders were used on '62-'64 F250 4x4 with 16" wheels. Larger radius fender were used on '62-'64 4x4 F 250's only when larger optional wheels ( 17, 17.5 19.5 ) were ordered.'65-'66 4x4 F250 came with large fenders with all wheels.'61 was slightly different F 250 4x4's with 16, 17 and 17,5 got the small fenders, 19.5 got the large fenders. Photo of 4x4 uni has 17,5" wheels.
 
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You are looking at pre production factory photos. The unibody 4x4 was a test unit, never released to the public as a standard production unit. I wouldn't be surprised if there F 350 unibody test unit photos out there as well. Notice the 2wd F 100 ( lower photo ) has '57-'60 style hubcaps, futher indication these are early pre production photos. About the fenders, Ford kept changing the 4x4 rules. Small radius fenders were used on '62-'64 F250 4x4 with 16" wheels. Larger radius fender were used on '62-'64 4x4 F 250's only when larger optional wheels ( 17, 17.5 19.5 ) were ordered.'65-'66 4x4 F250 came with large fenders with all wheels.'61 was slightly different F 250 4x4's with 16, 17 and 17,5 got the small fenders, 19.5 got the large fenders. Photo of 4x4 uni has 17,5" wheels.
What about the F100 4x4 fenders?
 
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What about the F100 4x4 fenders?
'62 thru '64 F 100 4x4's got the small fenders with 15 and 16" rims. '62-'64 F100's got the large fenders with 17.5 wheels. 65 F100 4x4's got the large fenders with all rims. 66 F 100 4x4's got the small fenders with all rims. 61 F 100 4x4's got small fenders with all rims. When you talk 4x4 fenders, one must be year and model specific.
 
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Interesting book - it is an official "Ford Licensed Product", but I doubt anyone at Ford did proof read it before final printing.

First and foremost this is a coffee table book - no doubt about that.

Text so far has some inaccuracies. One place it says F150 where it should say F100. Couple of places where it mentions 129" wheelbase on the 1966 F250 4x4 when it should have been 120". Possibly the editors got a little carried away thinking they knew better.

But, the pictures are largely from the Ford Archives so there are some interesting ones and a lot of them. Book is 240 pages total. You can tell from some of the other archive photos that the photo for the Unibody 4x4 is a real Ford archive photo.

It could have been better, I think, but overall not too bad, either.

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Interesting book - it is an official "Ford Licensed Product", but I doubt anyone at Ford did proof read it before final printing.

First and foremost this is a coffee table book - no doubt about that.

Text so far has some inaccuracies. One place it says F150 where it should say F100. Couple of places where it mentions 129" wheelbase on the 1966 F250 4x4 when it should have been 120". Possibly the editors got a little carried away thinking they knew better.

But, the pictures are largely from the Ford Archives so there are some interesting ones and a lot of them. Book is 240 pages total. You can tell from some of the other archive photos that the photo for the Unibody 4x4 is a real Ford archive photo.

It could have been better, I think, but overall not too bad, either.

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Thanks for the review.
 
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Here's a conversion - only about an hour North of me. Probably a cobbled mess, but interesting older one. Looks like a short bed Uni which in itself is pretty rare.

Large radius front fender on the drivers side, at least.


https://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/c...416917097.html

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Originally Posted by TA455HO
Here's a conversion - only about an hour North of me. Probably a cobbled mess, but interesting older one. Looks like a short bed Uni which in itself is pretty rare.

Large radius front fender on the drivers side, at least.


https://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/c...416917097.html

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I don't know about a cobbled mess. I think if it was an hour away from me on the East coast I'd be going to look at it.
I had a short bed uni back in the early 80's when it was just another old truck. I actually swapped in a 302 and a C4 after the 292 let a rod go.
I also had a '60 F100 SWB flareside that I converted to 4x4 with parts from a factory '59 4x4. Everything pretty much just bolted, the only real fab work was swapping in the 460 and C6.
 
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Originally Posted by TA455HO
Here's a conversion - only about an hour North of me. Probably a cobbled mess, but interesting older one. Looks like a short bed Uni which in itself is pretty rare.

Large radius front fender on the drivers side, at least.


https://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/c...416917097.html

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The thing about the pre '65 trucks with the leaf spring fronts is that a front driving axle will bolt under - kinda hard to botch that part (yes, I realize it is still possible ). Then you just have to fab up a T-case support and 3 drivelines and away you go.
 
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Originally Posted by TA455HO
Here's a conversion - only about an hour North of me. Probably a cobbled mess, but interesting older one. Looks like a short bed Uni which in itself is pretty rare.

Large radius front fender on the drivers side, at least.


https://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/c...416917097.html

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Chad with your vast knowledge and experience how hard would it be to convert my 1966 longbox 2 wh dr to 4x4 with leaf springs and solid diff say out of a dentside?
 
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The thing about the pre '65 trucks with the leaf spring fronts is that a front driving axle will bolt under - kinda hard to botch that part (yes, I realize it is still possible ). Then you just have to fab up a T-case support and 3 drivelines and away you go.
It's been a lot of years since I did it but like you said the axle bolts right in. The steering hooked together without any issues. The transfer case crossmember from the '59 bolted in. The only fab work was making the correct length drive shafts and I added the old style power steering like was used on the pre '78 F250 4x4.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/9970648@N06/2169856301/
 
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Chad with your vast knowledge and experience how hard would it be to convert my 1966 longbox 2 wh dr to 4x4 with leaf springs and solid diff say out of a dentside?
Converting a twin I beam is a different story. Unless you plan on a massive lift you need to remove the front crossmember under the engine so that the axle clears. Add in oil pan change, engine mounts, steering, etc. This is not a bolt in project.
That being said, I'm going to convert my '66 to 4x4 using a '78 F150 4x4 donor for parts.
 


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