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Old Nov 8, 2017 | 07:00 PM
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Stanadyne is OK. The Ford formulas are OK. Beyond that I'm not sure.

I don't use anything often, although I have used Stanadyne and never noticed any difference whatsoever. I think it's good practice to use Stanadyne cleaner every so often, but haven't done that yet.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2017 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by GoDuke1
What do you guys think about Hot Shot Secret EDT (Everyday Diesel Treatment). I've been using it but it does contain an emulsifier (I believe).
Google finds it does contain an emulsifier.
http://www.hotshotsecret.com/wp-cont...tGuide2016.pdf

You don't want to emulsify water in the fuel on modern high pressure diesels because that causes the water to go through the fuel filter/water separator to the engine.
That's bad.

You want to demulsify the water in the fuel so you can block it and drain it before it hits the injectors.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2017 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Krazyhorse
I have always used Stanadyne performance formula. It is a quality product made by a large fuel injector manufacturer. Year round, every fill. I have used it since 2006.

Lubricity is one big issue, stiction another and water in fuel a third.
It helps with all this plus has a cetane improver. Might have been fine without it, but when I first started using it on the Ford 6.2, the difference in the actual sound of the engine was amazing...I was sold. Smoother and quieter.

Don't forget to drain your fuel/water separator monthly. Document it.
You're running Stanadyne in the gas engine?

Keep in mind, when the engine starts cold, pilot injection is not running initially. When its warm outside, the delay between engine start and pilot injection starting might be seconds. When it is cold outside, that delay might be several minutes. When pilot injection is not running, the diesel engine will sound much rougher with all the fun sounds normally associated with an older diesel.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2017 | 05:35 PM
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Power Service products

If you are buying winterized fuel in the midwest it will most likely already have Power Service anti gel in it from the refiner. Power Service dominates the market for anti gel products.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2017 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom N OH
Exactly. Read the PSPs for Power Service. It is primarily alcohols & petroleum derivatives that are, in fact, emulsifiers. The letter from Power Service quoted above is largely smoke & mirrors/word manipulation. There is a certain amount of water than can be emulsified in a given volume of diesel fuel. Any more than that will naturally be “demulsified”, or precipitated out. That’s 8th grade science class.
Exactly correct, Power Service is an emulsifier... nobody should be using it in the 6.7.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2017 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Slammer1
If you are buying winterized fuel in the midwest it will most likely already have Power Service anti gel in it from the refiner. Power Service dominates the market for anti gel products.
I’m not sure this is true. Power service may dominate store shelves at Wal mart but I believe Amalgamated dominates diesel fuel treatment for refiners.

Diesel Fuel Additives, Biodiesel Additives, and Custom Fuel Additives : Amalgamated, Inc.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2017 | 09:52 PM
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Can't seem to find PM-23-GAL (the gallon container) anywhere online. Suggestions?
 
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Old Nov 9, 2017 | 10:03 PM
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Can't seem to find PM-23-GAL (the gallon container) anywhere online. Suggestions?
I order mine at the dealership as they generally don't stock them. Here's a link to Amazon.
Amazon Amazon
 
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Originally Posted by troverman
You're running Stanadyne in the gas engine?

Keep in mind, when the engine starts cold, pilot injection is not running initially. When its warm outside, the delay between engine start and pilot injection starting might be seconds. When it is cold outside, that delay might be several minutes. When pilot injection is not running, the diesel engine will sound much rougher with all the fun sounds normally associated with an older diesel.
Ha...oops. Ford 6.0, Duramax and now 6.7. Sorry.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2017 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by RJC2
I order mine at the dealership as they generally don't stock them. Here's a link to Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/Ford-PM-23-GA.../dp/B001H1OGMY
LOL!! Amazon page says "Ships in 1 to 2 months". I guess Amazon doesn't stock it much either.
 
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