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Old Oct 29, 2017 | 11:03 PM
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Gentleman,

I am cleaning my frame for my 1953 F100. I have justed used a wire wheel and I am happy with the condition of the frame. This pictures shows the cleaned frame, and uncleaned front cross member (under the radiator ).

Now need to decide on what to use to paint the frame and front axle. This picture shows how well it cleaned up, but you can see there is some little spots of rust left.

I have been reading a lot about POR15 and Eastwood chassis paint.

I wanted to ask what your opinion would be..use POR 15 or clean the frame as much as possible and use the Eastwood primer and black chassis paint?

I am leaning towards the Eastwood chassis paint, but my concern the little rust I might miss will cause the paint to fail?

ANY opinions?? Thx for the help.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2017 | 11:17 PM
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I've used POR products on a couple of projects and have been very satisfied with the results.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2017 | 11:44 PM
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Just got my 53 frame back from the powder coater. Beautiful and durable finish. Something to consider? Curt
 
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Old Oct 30, 2017 | 12:17 AM
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Fortyniner..

Just wondering, how much did you clean when you have used POR15? Sounds like it likes rust...so the more you clean, can that be a bad thing with POR15?
 
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Old Oct 30, 2017 | 03:09 AM
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When mine came back from being sand blasted I cleaned it and put two heavy coats of black paint used for painting equipment in a machine room. I had the paint left over for a job I done. It has set for years while saving money and has been touched up in a few places from being scratched but is still a durable lasting paint.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2017 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by NewClimber
Fortyniner..

Just wondering, how much did you clean when you have used POR15? Sounds like it likes rust...so the more you clean, can that be a bad thing with POR15?
The frame and underbody were wire brushed. Like any paint, the cleaner, the better. The biggest thing is to have all loose material and road dirt removed. The metal doesn't need to be shiny just crud free. Two coats are best.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2017 | 07:00 AM
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I've used the chassis paint from Eastwood and was satisfied with it, probably get paint cheaper from your local supplier though. Lately I have been using an implement paint from Atwoods (similar to Tractor Supply) and have been well satisfied when using it with hardener.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2017 | 09:26 AM
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On sandblasted pieces I have used Eastwood Extreme Chassis Black and it goes on good and looks very nice. On pieces I have just wire brushed, I used POR15 as it is a direct to metal paint and locks out any rust that the wire brushing will inevitably leave behind in any small pits or anywhere else. If you decide to use the POR15 paint, be aware that once the can is opened and some paint is removed (they tell you to never paint directly from the can as they want to minimize air getting to the paint), you need to use it all as soon as possible as it will harden up in the can. A few weeks is no problem but a few months and you will have problems. The Chassis Blacks from Eastwood don't have this issue but they may not lock out the rust like the POR15 will.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2017 | 09:34 AM
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Doug brings up a great point on POR - don't paint from the can. Also, I've been able to successfully store an opened can by wiping the lid seal lip before closing. Also, flipping the closed can, so the lid is down, seems to help seal out the air.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2017 | 09:55 AM
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I use KBS Rust Seal which is similar to POR-15 but not as finicky with the prep/bond and it is available in a variety of colors and less expensive than other similar products. I usually spray it on flows out nicely and dries fast, but for small jobs I puncture a couple of holes in the can lid and just pour the paint onto the brush without removing the lid. Paint never hardens in the can this way. Best way to do this is to screw in two self-tapping screws into the lid. Just yesterday I was running wiring through the body and before inserting the rubber grommets I painted the exposed metal with KBS...all it took was to remove a screw from the lid, pour out a bit on a dauber, and replace the screw...easy peasy.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2017 | 11:13 AM
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I second what Charlie says. I did my frame with it and I brushed it on and if you use a good brush this stuff lays down real nice.

https://www.kbs-coatings.com/rustseal.html
 
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Old Oct 30, 2017 | 12:10 PM
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I used eastwood chassis 2k on my frame and pretty happy with it but it was blasted clean. If not clean, I would just do the por15 which i have used on the inside of my cab where nice paint wont be. One thing I did with the por15 if you are not gonna use the whole can is I put 2 screws in the lid, took them out and poured what I needed and then put screws back in holes, put in ziploc and in my extra fridge. It has kept for months this way.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2017 | 03:41 PM
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As stated before metal prep is important. If you sand blast POR 15 needs no prep but cleaning like you are I’d suggest using their cleaning and etching products before using POR 15. Also if you will have your frame exposed to UV rays (aka Sunlight) you’ll need to topcoat it. You can prime it while tacky or if it’s dry use their topcoat. Something I found out the hard way is don’t drip sweat on it prior to it curing.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2017 | 06:43 PM
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The Eastwood version of POP15 has the UV protections and works as well.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2017 | 09:54 PM
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Thank you everyone for the replies..

I will look at the KRS products...if I decide to go with POR15, I did plan on using the pre-step to clean it and or etch, reading the instructions. But what about a top coat?? My truck will have a stock look after finished, but I don't think I can guarantee it will not see sunlight.

What has others done when using POR15 on a frame and axle...top coat or not??

The only thing that worries me about POR15, in cleaning it, most of the rust off, will to stop it from bonding to the metal.
 
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