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Old 12-04-2017, 06:17 PM
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also, the lebaron video above shows the burlap going on underneath the gray matting material before the cotton padding ... but the instructions with the cartouche kit make no mention of the burlap, and there was only one piece included which was scribed "seat back", which makes me think it is intended for the back of the seat back.

or, should i cut it (roughly) in half and use it under the matting (for both cushion and back) like in the video?
 
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Old 12-04-2017, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by GoldCo
also, the lebaron video above shows the burlap going on underneath the gray matting material before the cotton padding ... but the instructions with the cartouche kit make no mention of the burlap, and there was only one piece included which was scribed "seat back", which makes me think it is intended for the back of the seat back.

or, should i cut it (roughly) in half and use it under the matting (for both cushion and back) like in the video?
Mine was the same way as far as the burlap was concerned so I called the Cartouche "hot" line but was told no one was available and they would call me back. I'm still awaiting that return call . . . . So, I used most of the burlap on the seat back and used the remaining piece after trimming on the bottom. Not saying that is the best way but that's what I did.

Here are a few more pictures;
1) Burlap first




Next, the grey padding



Trimming the cotton batting



Ready for cover stretch



Starting at the bottom of the back



Cover pulled over ready for final stretching and "hog rings"
 
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Old 12-04-2017, 11:49 PM
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I'm a bit confused about which frame you are referring.

While not necessary to be removed, the base frame that mounts the seat spring frame to the floor can make for more clumsy assembly of the upholstery if attached to the spring frame. Both can remain together if separation is an issue. Was this your concern?

On the burlap, my practice has been to lay it down first over the springs and hog ring it to the frame. I've needed to buy a few yards from a fabric store to do this. This is my preference and not a gotta. It does match the video procedure.
 
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Old 12-05-2017, 12:06 AM
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While not necessary to be removed, the base frame that mounts the seat spring frame to the floor can make for more clumsy assembly of the upholstery if attached to the spring frame. Both can remain together if separation is an issue.
I agree with FortyNiner. I removed the mounting frame on the seat bottom prior to covering.

 
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Old 12-08-2017, 05:28 PM
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Red face clearly i'm making this harder than it needs to be

thanks for additional info... hoping to tackle this tomorrow.

since the backrest back is open, was thinking of having burlap cover it (even if it isn't seen). wondering if i can just do an up and over-the-top with the burlap or if it would be better to just have 2 pieces, front and back. (though looking at seatback i'm not sure where to hog ring in the front since there is a flat piece of metal (approx 1") that runs along the bottom.)

or: do i start hog rings on the bottom of the backside, run forward and "between", up and over the front, back down the back and hog ring again to same spot so the whole thing is covered?

also, what do you do with the black cords at the bottom?

hoping it all makes more sense tomorrow when i'm actually doing it.

 
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Old 12-09-2017, 02:15 AM
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Mock up your material layers and attach points, including the final cover. Move around the pieces/layers until you're satisfied. There are multiple workable solutions. Find yours before installing the hog rings. Be critical of your work and adjust as needed. Enjoy the journey. This is usually one of the 'final push' items. Mught want to start planning the first drive route.
 
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so, the video doesn't show cover install (just padding prep).

do you hog ring all around? what are the dingly cords in the corner used for?

this is the backrest:


 
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Originally Posted by Cougar54

Starting at the bottom of the back



i think this is what is confusing me... i thought that that black portion would've gone on the bottom of the backrest (sandwiched on top of seat bottom when installed) but your photo shows it up and around the backside along the bottom.
 
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I just attached the cover to the same spot as the cover I removed.
 
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well, looks like yours worked out just fine, so i guess i'll just copy what you've done there... looks like what, maybe 3-4" above the bottom of the back where you hog-ringed the black strip?

also, did you use all of the layers included of the cotton for the seat back?

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I just attached the cover to the same spot as the cover I removed.
 
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Old 12-09-2017, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by GoldCo
well, looks like yours worked out just fine, so i guess i'll just copy what you've done there... looks like what, maybe 3-4" above the bottom of the back where you hog-ringed the black strip?

also, did you use all of the layers included of the cotton for the seat back?

thanks.
Yes, I hog-ringed to the bar that holds the coil springs in place if I recall. Yes, I used all the layers of cotton for the seat back as well as for the seat bottom.
 
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Thanks!


Not too shabby…


 
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Looks good!!
 
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Rags to Riches, GoldCo, Rags to Riches. Looks great!
 
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I've been thinking about buying the Cartouche kit from Mac's based on the good results discussed here. However, when I looked at the description in the catalog it didn't mention anything about the burlap or batting. I call them and the operator confirmed that all they're currently selling is the seat cover and the hardware to attach it. Did the kit you guys used include the burlap, gray padding and cotton batting or did you buy those things locally?
 


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