Notices
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Dentsides Ford Truck
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Moser

What motor is this?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 15, 2017 | 06:02 PM
  #1  
gypsytpr's Avatar
gypsytpr
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
From: grand canyon az
What motor is this?

I know is a big block FE family but there are few casting NOS. and none that I recognise I did take a few pics

notice the 3 plugs around the cam stop

these are on the back and then there are some simular on the front but instead cant tell if this says "352" 0r "852" here

clearly says "352" here but has 53 and the back says 12 near the other NOS.

this is driver side just under the head near front of motor

notice the fuel pump bolts are horazontal and the oil filter has a bolt on that turns it vertical and has a sending port on the top


I am goint to take it all the way down to the bare block so when I get in there I will measure the bore and stroke.

this motor is seized at this point so dont know what it will look like when we get into it but my 14yr old son and i are going to turn the truck it came out of into a trailer to pull behind the 78 we are puting the 351w into.
 
Reply
Old Sep 15, 2017 | 06:59 PM
  #2  
flowney's Avatar
flowney
Cargo Master
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 2,216
Likes: 324
From: Central Florida
Casting numbers on the FE series engines aren't very helpful. The difference between the 360 and 390 is entirely due to stroke. The FEs were produced from 1958 through 1976 starting with the 352. Tearing into it will be the best way to know what you have.
 
Reply
Old Sep 15, 2017 | 07:11 PM
  #3  
KULTULZ's Avatar
KULTULZ
Cargo Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,132
Likes: 218
From: W (BY GOD) V
Post

What you have found are Casting Mold Nos.

You need to find the Block Casting I.D. No. - Date Code - If a 68/ the VIN will be stamped on the LR cyl block.
 
Attached Images    
Reply
Old Sep 15, 2017 | 09:01 PM
  #4  
gypsytpr's Avatar
gypsytpr
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
From: grand canyon az
very helpfull

these markings are much smaller than what I was looking for I will look again after I get the oil filter out of the way. I was looking for raised NOS not stamped. thank you for the pics.
 
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2017 | 06:32 AM
  #5  
KULTULZ's Avatar
KULTULZ
Cargo Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,132
Likes: 218
From: W (BY GOD) V
Post

Originally Posted by gypsytpr

these markings are much smaller than what I was looking for I will look again after I get the oil filter out of the way. I was looking for raised NOS not stamped. thank you for the pics.
Stamped only on the LR block @ cyl head. Rest will be raised.
 
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2017 | 12:08 PM
  #6  
F-250 WARHORSE's Avatar
F-250 WARHORSE
Cargo Master
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,364
Likes: 117
From: starship enterprise
I am not sure what engine, but judging from the crank that has thehalf moon cut it is a 360-352 stroke platform. 390 and longer stroke did not need that cut.
 
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2017 | 04:59 PM
  #7  
gypsytpr's Avatar
gypsytpr
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
From: grand canyon az
found some not all

Ok so I found the date stamp under the oil filter stand

but the stamped NOS. are not there ........ I did find the raised flat spot but nothing stamped there

I did find these NOS up front end of block but still doesn't look like what I should be looking for

and I did get a measuerment on the cylenders; 4.072" with a piston marked .030 on top so it's been bored once already. is still not spinning so did not yet get a measuerment on the stroke............ am soaking first one side then the other. might loosen the mains and what rodc aps I can get to but that will be tomorrows project
 
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2017 | 05:08 PM
  #8  
PA74F250's Avatar
PA74F250
Cargo Master
15 Year Member
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,099
Likes: 8
From: York, Pa
It's a run of the mill 360. Stock bore was 4.050" so your bore is 4.080" with the .030 over pistons. If you scrape the junk off the lip of the block you'll probably get the 4.080".
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-3

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-5

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-9

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Sep 16, 2017 | 05:55 PM
  #9  
gypsytpr's Avatar
gypsytpr
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
From: grand canyon az
the vin decoded to Y=360+v2 off the line but there was a ford v4 intake on there when I took it apart and a webber/edelbrock 4bbl carb on top............ so it is still a 360, what should the stroke be if the crank is still original I cannot see the casting NOS. on it yet they must be on the up side and it had not moved for me as of yet.
 
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2017 | 07:30 PM
  #10  
PA74F250's Avatar
PA74F250
Cargo Master
15 Year Member
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,099
Likes: 8
From: York, Pa
Both 352 and 360 shared the same crank 3.5". The 360 and 390 shared the same bore 4.050". The 390 had a 3.78" stroke crank.
 
Reply
Old Sep 17, 2017 | 08:45 AM
  #11  
F-250 WARHORSE's Avatar
F-250 WARHORSE
Cargo Master
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,364
Likes: 117
From: starship enterprise
Sounds like a 360 that got a 4bbl onversion
 
Reply
Old Sep 17, 2017 | 09:37 AM
  #12  
KULTULZ's Avatar
KULTULZ
Cargo Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,132
Likes: 218
From: W (BY GOD) V
Question

Originally Posted by gypsytpr

the vin decoded to Y=360+v2 off the line but there was a ford v4 intake on there when I took it apart and a webber/edelbrock 4bbl carb on top..........
So the engine did come out of a vehicle you have the VIN for (I thought you had a take-out)? Can you post the vehicle VIN (or first five characters)?

What model year is the truck?

What is the Casting I.D. and Date Code from the 4V intake?

On the pad @ the LR of the block, it is covered with engine paint. There is no indication of a partial stamped VIN?
 
Reply
Old Sep 17, 2017 | 07:11 PM
  #13  
gypsytpr's Avatar
gypsytpr
Thread Starter
|
Freshman User
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 38
Likes: 0
From: grand canyon az
intake= C5AE94205/65

heads= C8AEH/68

VIN=Fi0YLV83263/75-F100 reg cab long bed

I did get the pistons out today but did not get to measure the stroke as it was too guncked up to ever just spin. I had to drive the pistons out with a 2x4 and a hammer even after I did get it to move some it was never "free" and except for a "23" on one side if the first counterweight and a "24" on the opposite corner of the same weight there were no markings on the crank at all.

I scraped the rest of the paint fron the LR of block still no sign of any NOS.

the date stamp from under the iol filter mount (previous pic) 3G22 with a "W" over it
= 22 day of july of 73? or 63?
 
Reply
Old Sep 17, 2017 | 08:26 PM
  #14  
PA74F250's Avatar
PA74F250
Cargo Master
15 Year Member
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,099
Likes: 8
From: York, Pa
'65 intake
'68 heads
'73 block or it would have the goofy early motor mount bolt patter which it doesn't look like it does.
It's a 360 someone put a intake on. Who knows the heads coulda been to that block. Fe stuff seems to have a variety of things that were leftover and used.

That block should be good for another bore job at .040" if it will clean up but .060 sometimes gets a little borderline thin. If it was a later block that had the mirror 105 on the front it would be a little better off in most cases.

I wouldn't spend a lot of time on it if the bores are really rough. You may want to get it sonic checked once it's apart to see what you have left to work with.
 
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2017 | 06:32 AM
  #15  
KULTULZ's Avatar
KULTULZ
Cargo Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,132
Likes: 218
From: W (BY GOD) V
Post

Originally Posted by gypsytpr

VIN= F10YL - 75-F100 reg cab long bed

Intake= C5AE94205 (?)

Heads= C8AE-H

The date stamp from under the oil filter mount (previous pic) 3G22 with a "W" over it = 22 day of July of 73? or 63?
This is where you need to compare the CASTING I.D. No and DATE CODE to derive year of casting. The W signifies WINDSOR casting plant.



I scraped the rest of the paint from the LR of block still no sign of any NOS
...hmmpf...

This stamping is what has me wondering-
 
Attached Images  
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:07 PM.

story-0
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-30 18:33:59


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-2
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-4
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-6
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-8
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE