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Old Sep 5, 2017 | 08:55 PM
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3 speed transmission

I am wanting to freshen up my 272 a little bit maybe a mild street cam 4 barrel intake and am just wanting to make sure that won't be any problem for the 3 speed. Also I have another motor that I think might be a 292 and might do the same kind of build. Just want to make sure that both will handle that just fine.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2017 | 10:06 PM
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Light duty or heavy duty 3-sp? If you're figuring to do burnouts frequently, the LD trans is not recommended.
 
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Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
Light duty or heavy duty 3-sp? If you're figuring to do burnouts frequently, the LD trans is not recommended.
It might do a burnout here and there. But not a lot.
 
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Originally Posted by Mr.FordMan
It might do a burnout here and there. But not a lot.
What is the way to tell if it is Heavy or light duty because it is a 1/2 ton long bed I'm not sure if that would make any difference.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.FordMan
What is the way to tell if it is Heavy or light duty because it is a 1/2 ton long bed I'm not sure if that would make any difference.
Look on your data plate. I am assuming you're is a 56 so it should be on the door jamb. The HD transmission would have been an option.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2017 | 02:29 PM
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Just don't over-carburate the engine or you will lose bottom end power. It will stumble off idle. Check Holley's website for the carb selector page. A Holley 390 cfm should be about right.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2017 | 09:44 AM
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Just don't over-carburate the engine or you will lose bottom end power. It will stumble off idle. Check Holley's website for the carb selector page. A Holley 390 cfm should be about right.
Holley recommends 570 or 600 cfm for it.
 
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The Edelbrock 500 Performer is a much better carb for day-to-day driving.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2017 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr.FordMan
Holley recommends 570 or 600 cfm for it.
Based upon your post #1 description those seem to be on the large side. I'm not sure what parameters you used but using a 5,000 rpm redline and following your description of "mildly modified" below are the recommendations. There are a lot of them but the larger the carb the more air and fuel need to be used to obtain maximum power. But there reaches a point where too much is not better and that perfect balance is not reached.

Note in this video that they talk about Mores Law (not Moores Law) as in more is not better.

They often cite that this is the most common error made by most people trying to increase the performance of their engine. We have all done it, me included.

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With regards to the 3-speed: I hauled an Alaskan camper over 6 months and 37 states with a worn out, column shifted light duty 3-speed in my 272 equipped '56 F-100. Never had any trouble with the trans.
 
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Originally Posted by petemcl
Based upon your post #1 description those seem to be on the large side. I'm not sure what parameters you used but using a 5,000 rpm redline and following your description of "mildly modified" below are the recommendations. There are a lot of them but the larger the carb the more air and fuel need to be used to obtain maximum power. But there reaches a point where too much is not better and that perfect balance is not reached.

Note in this video that they talk about Mores Law (not Moores Law) as in more is not better.
https://youtu.be/pKG8-NnS9OI

They often cite that this is the most common error made by most people trying to increase the performance of their engine. We have all done it, me included.

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I think I see what the issue is. I am wanting to leave the manual choke and I don't think Holley offers something that small with manual choke.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2017 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.FordMan
I think I see what the issue is. I am wanting to leave the manual choke and I don't think Holley offers something that small with manual choke.
The electric choke is very nice and works well. Given the trade off between choke type and performance IMO choose performance. I'm not sure what type of choke the 500 cfm carb that Ross suggested has.
 
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The electric choke is very nice and works well. Given the trade off between choke type and performance IMO chose performance. I'm not sure what type of choke the 500 cfm carb that Ross suggested has.
I have an Edelbrock 500 on my 292 now since I swapped out the 272. It comes it both flavors- manual or electric. Since I had the choke cable and **** already, I went manual. It works just fine, and I can control it myself. I have since rebuilt the three speed, and it's still going strong....
 
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I think I see what the issue is. I am wanting to leave the manual choke and I don't think Holley offers something that small with manual choke.
Holley offers bolt on manual choke kits to replace the automatic choke.
 
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Originally Posted by Steve
With regards to the 3-speed: I hauled an Alaskan camper over 6 months and 37 states with a worn out, column shifted light duty 3-speed in my 272 equipped '56 F-100. Never had any trouble with the trans.
Steve, that trip sounds interesting. Tell us more about it in a separate thread and post some pics if you have any.
 
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