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Old Aug 28, 2017 | 11:33 PM
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Anyone know what grade the torx bolts are that hold the oil rail in place?
The PO used the wrong sized bit and I have a lot of damaged points on a
set along with the one that was snapped off by what looks to be over torqued.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2017 | 11:36 PM
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Old Aug 29, 2017 | 12:30 AM
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😏 Some help you are. 😏

I'll let you know if I find out. One would think that if I can find the grade then
I should be able to find torx cap screws to use in place of the messed up ones.


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Old Aug 29, 2017 | 12:41 AM
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Interesting, I have one am doing the STC, dummies and SP's but didn't get up close and personal to look.
I'll bet GR8 ? Are they marked at all?
 
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Old Aug 29, 2017 | 01:35 AM
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Had to go dig up my 10X eye helper.
The bolt is marked UM 10.9
 
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Old Aug 29, 2017 | 04:59 AM
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Had to go dig up my 10X eye helper.
The bolt is marked UM 10.9
I'm reasonably sure that IS indeed grade 8.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2017 | 05:50 AM
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I think we are confusing SAE vs ISO strength markings. I would sure expect and hope they are 10.9 Metric. SAE 8 is similar to 10.9 ISO.

This is a decent chart of the differences.

Hex Bolt Identification, Markings and Strength Chart Table Guide - Engineers Edge
 
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Old Aug 29, 2017 | 07:56 AM
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I think we are confusing SAE vs ISO strength markings. I would sure expect and hope they are 10.9 Metric. SAE 8 is similar to 10.9 ISO.

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Hex Bolt Identification, Markings and Strength Chart Table Guide - Engineers Edge
I believe you're right....I just went through this a while back and was told that 10.9 is equivalent to SEA grade 8 My Deere dealer gave me that answer, for what ever that's worth.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2017 | 08:59 AM
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Yall are indeed correct about grade 8 SAE vs. 10.9 metric, but don't they screw into aluminum?. I think it's strange that they went with a 10.9 there, but not surprised.
 
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The higher grades, 8 / 10.9, are not just used because of need for higher proof or yield strength, but they are tougher as well. So they will be less prone to torx or hex deformation if you want some protection from tearup. The belief they are more "brittle" is not true. I try to buy 8 / 10.9 when I buy in quantity, bolts, nuts and washers. Mostly I get fasteners from McMaster since I don't have a Fastenal account. HD and the like in general carry the worst stock out there unless you hit their boxes. When we did field work on the East Coast often we would hit up Pep Boys if we needed something quick as they carried a lot of 8 stock, not sure they still do.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2017 | 03:18 PM
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Well I have a few commercial/industrial fastener suppliers to work with
here in Tacoma. I will all hinge on it they have the grade and torx in stock.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2017 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Yahiko
Well I have a few commercial/industrial fastener suppliers to work with
here in Tacoma. I will all hinge on it they have the grade and torx in stock.
Store Locations | www.histrength.com

https://www.fastenal.com/locations;j...7-bf77ad0514fd
 
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Old Aug 29, 2017 | 04:07 PM
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You forgot Tacoma Screw.
Tacoma Screw Products, Inc. Fasteners, Tools, Maintenance & Shop Supplies, Industrial Supplies

I just got an Email from Ed and he has the Ford part number
and also can get the bolts for a fair price.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2017 | 05:26 PM
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Call Diesel Redemption. He takes motors apart all the time. That way you get OEM parts.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2017 | 06:31 PM
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My moto is, when in doubt, grade 8.
 
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