Bulletproof Gasser?
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Bulletproof Gasser?
I want a 2011-2016 F-250. I heard that most diesels need to be bulletproofed. (Mind you I just want it for the looks of it) if I get a F-250 would a gasser need to be bullet proofed?
Token Redneck
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Oh lord, the disease is spreading. There is NO justifiable reason to be concerned about this subject. Nada, zilch, it's an internet meme at this point. Buy the 6.2 and rejoice in the best V8 gas engine Ford has ever made.
"Bulletproofing" is a marketing term from 2004-2005 that means "spend piles and piles of money to fix things that might not even be a problem. Ever. But some guy on the internet says it might break, so I'd better spend $5k on it. So I can 'trust the truck' again". It implies making a series of minor modifications and one major one to a 6.0L diesel engine, with greatly varying efficacy that's inversely related to the level of carnal knowledge the "mechanic" has of his cousins. Commonly heard from wife-beater wearing hillbillies at gas pumps who gaze in wonder on your Ford steed, then immediately sneer once they hear it's not "bulletproofed", followed by a lengthy diatribe about how their cousin's-friend's-uncle had one and it blew up and cost him $137,498 to repair because all Ford's are garbage unless they're bulletproofed (spit dip through tooth gap). When confronted with question about what part of it is most important, stamps feet and calls you a cuck for driving a horrible truck, proceeds to climb into his 1984 Civic hatch with a girl in the passenger seat you wouldn't touch if it was to stop karma from hitting her with the ugly stick.
"Bulletproofing" is a marketing term from 2004-2005 that means "spend piles and piles of money to fix things that might not even be a problem. Ever. But some guy on the internet says it might break, so I'd better spend $5k on it. So I can 'trust the truck' again". It implies making a series of minor modifications and one major one to a 6.0L diesel engine, with greatly varying efficacy that's inversely related to the level of carnal knowledge the "mechanic" has of his cousins. Commonly heard from wife-beater wearing hillbillies at gas pumps who gaze in wonder on your Ford steed, then immediately sneer once they hear it's not "bulletproofed", followed by a lengthy diatribe about how their cousin's-friend's-uncle had one and it blew up and cost him $137,498 to repair because all Ford's are garbage unless they're bulletproofed (spit dip through tooth gap). When confronted with question about what part of it is most important, stamps feet and calls you a cuck for driving a horrible truck, proceeds to climb into his 1984 Civic hatch with a girl in the passenger seat you wouldn't touch if it was to stop karma from hitting her with the ugly stick.
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People that own diesels tend to delete them to try and avoid some of the pitfalls that can happen regens, egr issues and head gasket issues etc, the emissions systems on the diesels can be problematic especially with the 6.0 and 6.4, the 6.7 to a point but no where near as bad with the 6.4
With a gas engine just make sure you do you your oil and filter changes on time and regular maintenance and you should be fine
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Oh lord, the disease is spreading. There is NO justifiable reason to be concerned about this subject. Nada, zilch, it's an internet meme at this point. Buy the 6.2 and rejoice in the best V8 gas engine Ford has ever made.
"Bulletproofing" is a marketing term from 2004-2005 that means "spend piles and piles of money to fix things that might not even be a problem. Ever. But some guy on the internet says it might break, so I'd better spend $5k on it. So I can 'trust the truck' again". It implies making a series of minor modifications and one major one to a 6.0L diesel engine, with greatly varying efficacy that's inversely related to the level of carnal knowledge the "mechanic" has of his cousins. Commonly heard from wife-beater wearing hillbillies at gas pumps who gaze in wonder on your Ford steed, then immediately sneer once they hear it's not "bulletproofed", followed by a lengthy diatribe about how their cousin's-friend's-uncle had one and it blew up and cost him $137,498 to repair because all Ford's are garbage unless they're bulletproofed (spit dip through tooth gap). When confronted with question about what part of it is most important, stamps feet and calls you a cuck for driving a horrible truck, proceeds to climb into his 1984 Civic hatch with a girl in the passenger seat you wouldn't touch if it was to stop karma from hitting her with the ugly stick.
"Bulletproofing" is a marketing term from 2004-2005 that means "spend piles and piles of money to fix things that might not even be a problem. Ever. But some guy on the internet says it might break, so I'd better spend $5k on it. So I can 'trust the truck' again". It implies making a series of minor modifications and one major one to a 6.0L diesel engine, with greatly varying efficacy that's inversely related to the level of carnal knowledge the "mechanic" has of his cousins. Commonly heard from wife-beater wearing hillbillies at gas pumps who gaze in wonder on your Ford steed, then immediately sneer once they hear it's not "bulletproofed", followed by a lengthy diatribe about how their cousin's-friend's-uncle had one and it blew up and cost him $137,498 to repair because all Ford's are garbage unless they're bulletproofed (spit dip through tooth gap). When confronted with question about what part of it is most important, stamps feet and calls you a cuck for driving a horrible truck, proceeds to climb into his 1984 Civic hatch with a girl in the passenger seat you wouldn't touch if it was to stop karma from hitting her with the ugly stick.
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The by now appallingly over exploited term bullet proofing originated and applies to the 6.0 diesel engines that didn't have enough head bolts. Then people towed with chips and needed new head gaskets. And....then the cab has to come off so somebody coined the term which means to do the cab off head gaskets and ARP studs.
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Token Redneck
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Sorry buddy, but the whole cab-off myth started with the 6.4, because the cab bolts were changed to make it easier to remove. The 6.0 can be taken to a short block in frame, and even many of the 6.4 jobs that "require" cab removal can be done in-frame. The 6.4 can be a royal PITA because of the way the turbo mounting flange bolts face the rear, but not all Ford bays have lifts, so there are cab-on procedures for most of the jobs.
It's a matter of debate if it's easier to pull the cab for some jobs if you have a lift, but everything 6.0 related can be done in-frame just fine. IMO it's easier to remove the engine and put it on a stand, but that's true of a lot of engines.
100% agree on the number of head bolts. Ford heard that loud and clear in the engineering department; the 6.7 has 6 bolts for a reason, and it was built to the power spec they released it at. The 6.0 got turned up into a meteor by Ford even before the tuners got a hold of it, it's a hot engine in "stock" Ford dress.
It's a matter of debate if it's easier to pull the cab for some jobs if you have a lift, but everything 6.0 related can be done in-frame just fine. IMO it's easier to remove the engine and put it on a stand, but that's true of a lot of engines.
100% agree on the number of head bolts. Ford heard that loud and clear in the engineering department; the 6.7 has 6 bolts for a reason, and it was built to the power spec they released it at. The 6.0 got turned up into a meteor by Ford even before the tuners got a hold of it, it's a hot engine in "stock" Ford dress.
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I did see a bulletproof gasser F250 when I was working in Afghanistan 2008-2010, and a few Excursions, but I don't think Kevlar, ballistic plates and bullet resistant glass are what you meant.
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Hello. From these forums and the 28k I've put on my 2015 F-350, the 6.2 seems extremely reliable. However, there is apparently an issue with some '15 and '16 oil baffles.
https://ford.oemdtc.com/1301/excessive-oil-consumption-2015-2016-ford-f-super-duty-f-250-f-350
"Some 2015-2016 F-Super Duty250/350 vehicles equipped with a 6.2L engine and built on 3/1/2014 and through 9/8/2015 may exhibit excessive oil consumption due to an internally leaking baffle in the right side valve cover."
My truck was built in this window but has had ZERO oil consumption so far. Without symptoms, it is apparently not eligible for warranty service.
-W
PS: thanks for the laugh, texastech_diesel!
https://ford.oemdtc.com/1301/excessive-oil-consumption-2015-2016-ford-f-super-duty-f-250-f-350
"Some 2015-2016 F-Super Duty250/350 vehicles equipped with a 6.2L engine and built on 3/1/2014 and through 9/8/2015 may exhibit excessive oil consumption due to an internally leaking baffle in the right side valve cover."
My truck was built in this window but has had ZERO oil consumption so far. Without symptoms, it is apparently not eligible for warranty service.
-W
PS: thanks for the laugh, texastech_diesel!
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[QUOTE=texastech_diesel;17421776]Oh lord, the disease is spreading. There is NO justifiable reason to be concerned about this subject. Nada, zilch, it's an internet meme at this point. Buy the 6.2 and rejoice in the best V8 gas engine Ford has ever made.
"Bulletproofing" is a marketing term from 2004-2005 that means "spend piles and piles of money to fix things that might not even be a problem. Ever. But some guy on the internet says it might break, so I'd better spend $5k on it. So I can 'trust the truck' again". It implies making a series of minor modifications and one major one to a 6.0L diesel engine, with greatly varying efficacy that's inversely related to the level of carnal knowledge the "mechanic" has of his cousins. Commonly heard from wife-beater wearing hillbillies at gas pumps who gaze in wonder on your Ford steed, then immediately sneer once they hear it's not "bulletproofed", followed by a lengthy diatribe about how their cousin's-friend's-uncle had one and it blew up and cost him $137,498 to repair because all Ford's are garbage unless they're bulletproofed (spit dip through tooth gap). When confronted with question about what part of it is most important, stamps feet and calls you a cuck for driving a horrible truck, proceeds to climb into his 1984 Civic hatch with a girl in the passenger seat you wouldn't touch if it was to stop karma from hitting her with the ugly stick.
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"Bulletproofing" is a marketing term from 2004-2005 that means "spend piles and piles of money to fix things that might not even be a problem. Ever. But some guy on the internet says it might break, so I'd better spend $5k on it. So I can 'trust the truck' again". It implies making a series of minor modifications and one major one to a 6.0L diesel engine, with greatly varying efficacy that's inversely related to the level of carnal knowledge the "mechanic" has of his cousins. Commonly heard from wife-beater wearing hillbillies at gas pumps who gaze in wonder on your Ford steed, then immediately sneer once they hear it's not "bulletproofed", followed by a lengthy diatribe about how their cousin's-friend's-uncle had one and it blew up and cost him $137,498 to repair because all Ford's are garbage unless they're bulletproofed (spit dip through tooth gap). When confronted with question about what part of it is most important, stamps feet and calls you a cuck for driving a horrible truck, proceeds to climb into his 1984 Civic hatch with a girl in the passenger seat you wouldn't touch if it was to stop karma from hitting her with the ugly stick.
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Oh lord, the disease is spreading. There is NO justifiable reason to be concerned about this subject. Nada, zilch, it's an internet meme at this point. Buy the 6.2 and rejoice in the best V8 gas engine Ford has ever made.
"Bulletproofing" is a marketing term from 2004-2005 that means "spend piles and piles of money to fix things that might not even be a problem. Ever. But some guy on the internet says it might break, so I'd better spend $5k on it. So I can 'trust the truck' again". It implies making a series of minor modifications and one major one to a 6.0L diesel engine, with greatly varying efficacy that's inversely related to the level of carnal knowledge the "mechanic" has of his cousins. Commonly heard from wife-beater wearing hillbillies at gas pumps who gaze in wonder on your Ford steed, then immediately sneer once they hear it's not "bulletproofed", followed by a lengthy diatribe about how their cousin's-friend's-uncle had one and it blew up and cost him $137,498 to repair because all Ford's are garbage unless they're bulletproofed (spit dip through tooth gap). When confronted with question about what part of it is most important, stamps feet and calls you a cuck for driving a horrible truck, proceeds to climb into his 1984 Civic hatch with a girl in the passenger seat you wouldn't touch if it was to stop karma from hitting her with the ugly stick.
"Bulletproofing" is a marketing term from 2004-2005 that means "spend piles and piles of money to fix things that might not even be a problem. Ever. But some guy on the internet says it might break, so I'd better spend $5k on it. So I can 'trust the truck' again". It implies making a series of minor modifications and one major one to a 6.0L diesel engine, with greatly varying efficacy that's inversely related to the level of carnal knowledge the "mechanic" has of his cousins. Commonly heard from wife-beater wearing hillbillies at gas pumps who gaze in wonder on your Ford steed, then immediately sneer once they hear it's not "bulletproofed", followed by a lengthy diatribe about how their cousin's-friend's-uncle had one and it blew up and cost him $137,498 to repair because all Ford's are garbage unless they're bulletproofed (spit dip through tooth gap). When confronted with question about what part of it is most important, stamps feet and calls you a cuck for driving a horrible truck, proceeds to climb into his 1984 Civic hatch with a girl in the passenger seat you wouldn't touch if it was to stop karma from hitting her with the ugly stick.
youre the Dennis Miller of this forum. That was good!
