Before PIP or Distributor Replacement
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Before PIP or Distributor Replacement
Recently a friend & chapter member had one of those issues that crop up where nothing seems to work after trying everything.
f1504x4driver, (AKA Thomas) went through this not too long ago:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-95-5-8-w.html
Well T has had some health issues lately & on the way to a Doc appt he had a die & no start issue resolved by: pulling the spout.
So he picked up a Duralast Gold new unit w/lifetime warranty & I stabbed it for him this weekend.
Reports are it hasn't run this good in years.
Below is what I found when I took took the shutter wheel off the top of the shaft & pulled the 95, 5.8 PIP that has over 200k on the clock:
This cleaned up really well with my stiff camel hair brush & some contact cleaner. I imagine a vacuum or at least compressed air would help in the engine compartment.
I would STRONGLY recommend pulling the shutter wheel on any strangely behaving OBS and inspecting the Hall effect sensor of the PIP.
This truck set NO PIP codes & would only run with SPOUT out.
f1504x4driver, (AKA Thomas) went through this not too long ago:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-95-5-8-w.html
Well T has had some health issues lately & on the way to a Doc appt he had a die & no start issue resolved by: pulling the spout.
So he picked up a Duralast Gold new unit w/lifetime warranty & I stabbed it for him this weekend.
Reports are it hasn't run this good in years.
Below is what I found when I took took the shutter wheel off the top of the shaft & pulled the 95, 5.8 PIP that has over 200k on the clock:
This cleaned up really well with my stiff camel hair brush & some contact cleaner. I imagine a vacuum or at least compressed air would help in the engine compartment.
I would STRONGLY recommend pulling the shutter wheel on any strangely behaving OBS and inspecting the Hall effect sensor of the PIP.
This truck set NO PIP codes & would only run with SPOUT out.
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Thanks.
In all my time here watching people chase no-start/dies/runs like crap/change every part imaginable thread, I've never seen somebody recommend pull the shutter wheel off & clean the PIP.
In all my time here watching people chase no-start/dies/runs like crap/change every part imaginable thread, I've never seen somebody recommend pull the shutter wheel off & clean the PIP.
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Cleaning the stator would certainly help that issue. But on mine there was wear on the shaft so I switched the collar and gear to the NOS distributor.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-eec-iv-2.html
The best diagnosis decision tree I have ever seen is here:
http://troubleshootmyvehicle.com/for...t-a-no-start-1
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-eec-iv-2.html
The best diagnosis decision tree I have ever seen is here:
http://troubleshootmyvehicle.com/for...t-a-no-start-1
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T & I both carry one of these (below) in the glove compartment & it would light up just fine, but not run the truck.
Not with the SPOUT in. (Edit #2 With tester installed, SPOUT doesn't matter...
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Great info ! Can the shutter wheel be removed from the top without pulling the distributor out of the engine ? I would like to make an inspection as per your photos. I have what I believe is a stock distributor in a 89 460 with 200k miles.
Thanks
Tony
Thanks
Tony
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Pull the rotor, & remove the 2 screws on top of the shutter wheel.
Can't remember the head size, maybe 5mm. (Edit, it's a 1/4 inch)
Distributor removal not required.
IF the PIP has to be (replaced) due to failure, then yes the distributor must be removed & the gear pressed off after the roll pin is driven out.
Good luck, hope simple cleaning works for you.
Can't remember the head size, maybe 5mm. (Edit, it's a 1/4 inch)
Distributor removal not required.
IF the PIP has to be (replaced) due to failure, then yes the distributor must be removed & the gear pressed off after the roll pin is driven out.
Good luck, hope simple cleaning works for you.
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Looks like corrosion. Not sure what the metal actually is.
No idea about the leakage.
I might risk a shot of electrical contact cleaner & some compressed air.
But only cause yanking a distributor out for me is no big deal if I kilt' it.
No idea about the leakage.
I might risk a shot of electrical contact cleaner & some compressed air.
But only cause yanking a distributor out for me is no big deal if I kilt' it.
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