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Old Aug 25, 2017 | 03:03 PM
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At least west of the tidewater area.
After mine arrives, I'll measure it and report back since I am located in Tidewater ... AKA; The 7 Cities, Hampton Roads, The 757. Wish they'd just refer to this area as SEVA (Southeast VA), just like the area near the Beltway is called NOVA.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2017 | 03:22 PM
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There aint Squat level in NOVA
I'll be at Oyster Point this weekend.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2017 | 03:33 PM
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I'll be at Oyster Point this weekend.
About 2 miles from me. I'll be in Gloucester tomorrow & all my in-laws live in Mathews.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2017 | 04:52 PM
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Yeah, whoever loosened the bed bolts when they sprayed in the bedliner bumped the bed and didn't put back in alignment with the cab. No biggie, easy adjustment.

This whole "my truck isn't level" thing is kind of funny though. There is no such thing as level. Roads aren't level. Level is a fleeting moment as a truck drives down a crowned road and changes lanes. In the U.S. most roads will put the driver's side higher than the passenger side because of the way they are paved. Turn on your truck inclinometer under the "off-road"menu. The right lane will lean you over to starboard approximately 1 degree.

The suspension in this truck is tuned. If my truck is otherwise empty, when I get out it will generally rest a half an inch lower on the driver's side mainly because of fuel in the tank. I carry some tools/chain in the bed on the passenger side under the tonneau then if on a flat surface the truck is relatively true to the frame. If my wife and kid are sitting on the passenger side then we lean a little to starboard.

Funny stuff. Maybe buyer's remorse. In any case, 1/2 inch either way is undetectable by the un-aided human eye.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2017 | 08:36 PM
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i dont know who used the term level but i dont believe it was me. since the beginning ive been talking about ride height from side to side. rather than use shims or spring spacers to compensate for a lean , i would find the root cause and fix it there
 
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Old Aug 25, 2017 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by willynilly
i dont know who used the term level but i dont believe it was me. since the beginning ive been talking about ride height from side to side. rather than use shims or spring spacers to compensate for a lean , i would find the root cause and fix it there
The root cause is the truck not having an equal left to right weight balance, yet the spring rates on the left and right sides are the same. This means the heavier side rides lower. Outside of reengineering the truck after having weighed the individual components, including the eventual occupants, or adding to ballast to the lighter side, how exactly would you fix this?
 
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Old Aug 25, 2017 | 08:54 PM
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Take it to a spring shop and they can re-arch the left side to your content... Use to do this all the time for people that weighed over 300 Lbs.
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Old Aug 25, 2017 | 09:10 PM
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i dont think anyone would dispute a small amount of lean being normal. but i think its hogwash to believe the fueltank is pulling it down 1/2" ,1", 1 1/4" etc. when you have a highly visible lean im betting something funky is going on
 
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Old Aug 25, 2017 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Hackenbush
Take it to a spring shop and they can re-arch the left side to your content... Use to do this all the time for people that weighed over 300 Lbs.
cficare Spring Menders 5580 Raby Road, Norfolk, Virginia, 23502
Yep, that would work. As would shims, adjustable coil spacers, etc. These are all simple fixes to addressing the symptoms. It's trying to address the root cause that I question.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2017 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by willynilly
i dont think anyone would dispute a small amount of lean being normal. but i think its hogwash to believe the fueltank is pulling it down 1/2" ,1", 1 1/4" etc. when you have a highly visible lean im betting something funky is going on
It's not just the fuel tank. It's all the stuff on or along the left side of the truck that weighs more than the stuff on or along the right. The left side has the Steering box and column, pedal assembly, fuel lines, DFCM, transfer case output, front drive shaft, fuel tank, DEF tank, plus the driver. All of this could easily make the left side 400-600 lbs heavier than the right (unless there are passengers in the truck to help offset the left side bias).
 
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Old Aug 25, 2017 | 09:23 PM
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by your fueltank theory, these truck springs must be unbelievable soft in the first part of compression. but why doesnt every new ford lean over then ? factory swaybars may account for some trucks leaning less than others, maybe. hell the powerwagon with its soft springs doesnt lean 1/2" even with 31gal fuel
 
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Old Aug 25, 2017 | 09:24 PM
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I addressed this problem for 27 years for dealers on new trucks. 1 Hr Labor 120.00 and 2 new U-Bolts & Nuts 40.00. Done... Never used any spacers.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2017 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by skanj0
The root cause is the truck not having an equal left to right weight balance, yet the spring rates on the left and right sides are the same. This means the heavier side rides lower. Outside of reengineering the truck after having weighed the individual components, including the eventual occupants, or adding to ballast to the lighter side, how exactly would you fix this?
This exactly ^^
 
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Old Aug 26, 2017 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by willynilly
by your fueltank theory, these truck springs must be unbelievable soft in the first part of compression. but why doesnt every new ford lean over then ? factory swaybars may account for some trucks leaning less than others, maybe. hell the powerwagon with its soft springs doesnt lean 1/2" even with 31gal fuel
I can easily push down on the passenger side of my truck and bring it down an inch. Not much effort at all..... FX4 with camper pkg. Try it.

Add 200# fuel, and truck components off centerline to the driver's side.......there you go.

Trying to make permanent adjustments for temporary weight and balance issues is not practical IMO.

How do you do that? The options are almost endless.

You could tell the spring tech to adjust the springs for........Empty truck, no passengers, no fuel. 300# driver, full fuel, 600# passenger.......on and on.

Ford has no idea how you are going to load your truck. They install matched spring sets for an even ride. How the truck is loaded is on the buyer.
 
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Old Aug 26, 2017 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Hackenbush
I addressed this problem for 27 years for dealers on new trucks. 1 Hr Labor 120.00 and 2 new U-Bolts & Nuts 40.00. Done... Never used any spacers.
I can definitely see that before HD pickups started coming with coil springs (either front, or front and rear). After that, shims for the coils is about the only option. Or something akin to the OUO adjustable coil levers. They are not cheap, but they work well.
 
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