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Old Aug 14, 2017 | 08:28 PM
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Widow maker wheel question???

I've recently bought a 1954 Ford F-600 and it has the notorious 20" 5 lug widow maker 2 piece wheels on it. Does anyone know if they make a adapter that I can put on to change it from the 5 lug pattern to the 22.5" 10 lug semi wheel pattern? Also has anyone or is it even possible to weld the "widow maker" wheels to make them safe or would you not be able to get the tire on and off?

Any help or wisdom would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2017 | 08:57 PM
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Adapters for modern 22.5s
They do make adapters. If you're ok with new style rims then that's the ticket. If you're looking for something more period correct but not 100%, some 5 bolt 22.5 rims will bolt right up. The trick is finding some...
 
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Old Aug 14, 2017 | 11:27 PM
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Oh sweet. Yes I'm looking for the more modern wheels. Do you know who makes the adapters and how much they cost?
 
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Old Aug 15, 2017 | 06:52 AM
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Arrowcraft is a company that is known for their spacers. Stu

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Like the wheel chock, is it NFL endorsed?
 
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Old Aug 15, 2017 | 09:46 AM
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Like the wheel chock, is it NFL endorsed?

lol! I pulled the image off the internet when I was looking into adapters. Never notices the football
 
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Old Aug 15, 2017 | 11:43 AM
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The second part of your question was cost. I've not priced them, but guys who have investigated it have said they are as expensive as the wheels. Then you get to buy the wheels too.

It's not possible to weld the halves of a widow maker together while still expecting to get a tire mounted. The bead of a 20" is much stiffer than that of a 22.5", and the 22.5" rim has a drop center allowing the tire to elongate into an oval as it stretches over the lips of the rim. Wouldn't happen with a 20" tire and the tall lips of the rims.

Another tubeless option is a set of wheels like Geno's. The tubeless 22.5" x 5.25" having the 5 x 8" pattern. I know that our friend Josh Madsen has a set available if it's of interest. Stu
 
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Old Aug 15, 2017 | 12:36 PM
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The price for adapters was $350 each
 
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$350 each??? Are they made from gold? Thanks for the info fellas. Hey Stu do you have a pic of Josh Madsens wheels?
 
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No, but I believe they are probably the same as Gene has pictured. I can text Josh and ask him to drop by if you want me to. Stu
 
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$350 each??? Are they made from gold? Thanks for the info fellas. Hey Stu do you have a pic of Josh Madsens wheels?
Don't know where you're located, but you can get these at Les Schwab. If I remember correctly the 9R22.5 tire and wheel including black powdercoating was $375.


9R22.5 vs. 8.25x20
 
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$350 each??? Are they made from gold? Thanks for the info fellas. Hey Stu do you have a pic of Josh Madsens wheels?
My ears must have been burning. I actually saw this thread when first posted and was going to comment but didnt. Any way ill find the pictures of the wheels and post tomorrow.
 
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I do not claim to be a machinist, but I believe I see several hours machine set up and machine time, all this to an expensive piece of good grade steel going into the makeup of this adapter. Add studs at a couple $$ each.
How about it, machinists among us, how far off is the $350. price? Mark?
 
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here is the link to the ad I placed for the wheels






https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post17018969
 
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I do not claim to be a machinist, but I believe I see several hours machine set up and machine time, all this to an expensive piece of good grade steel going into the makeup of this adapter. Add studs at a couple $$ each.
How about it, machinists among us, how far off is the $350. price? Mark?
For a guy to do them on a manual matching that's probably pretty close. On a Cnc it would be cheaper but more money for the guy working he machine. And then. You have liability insurance...
 
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