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Old Aug 17, 2017 | 07:19 PM
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It's not a war on heritage at all.It's a war on supremacy and hate.I sympathize for those who feel otherwise.It must be confusing times for some.

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If it's any consolation Rusty,The US Government tried for many years to end all Native American heritage and culture (today this fight still continues on many levels).........They lost and will continue to do so.

As long as you are alive,you have the ability to share your heritage and pass it to your children.Focus on your nationalities greatest moments and uphold those while at the same time,never forgetting where our ancestors went wrong so we don't make the same mistakes over again.

There are no monuments (offensive to others or not) required for heritage to live on.We know this to be true,through the history of America's first peoples.
See that's the problem you try to share your heritage and your story and you get called a liar, a racist, a white nationalist, a KKK klansmen, etc. They say you are wrong and telling lies about the civil war.

Its like right now Ch11 here is doing a city talk with an audience which I bet is a paid audience about the monuments. The black man and I use that term loosely said that people are against the removal because they want them to stay up to try and keep the old days alive of jimcrow. Sorry but there are a lot of black men and women here in Texas protesting against their removal so you saying they are racist against their own people? What about me I am admitting that the north did way worse to the slaves than the south. Then another said they dreamed of a day where blacks could make money. Uh yea free blacks were allowed to own property and slaves in the south and many did making money so that's a bull**** lie. Then go on about how it was to keep slavery around, but slavery was not in danger of being outlawed Lincoln was voting on if the new states being admitted should be slave or free states. The southern states and northern states where slavery was already legal would not be effected. But yet if the war was over keeping slavery then why did they break away and fight then since Lincoln was not ending slavery in the states where it was legal at.

You see this is the kind of **** that people like me are trying to inform people on but we are called **** sympathizers and neo ***** and KKK klansmen and just plain racist. I had one person called me sick and never would get into heaven like MLK but yet MLK was anti gay himself which has me surprised the LBGTQ crowd isn't calling for his statue in DC to be pulled down since he was a bigot towards them.

In the end if they are to be put in musuems to be preserve cause they are of history well then why aren't the other monuments being put in musuems to preserve them for history? It is no different than how the natives lost their identity and no different than the blacks losing their idenitity when they were selling each other to the European slave trade. But yet now they want us to lose our identity and laugh about it and if we try to defend it they want to call us names. But yet they are too ignorant to see that **** like this is what keeps hate groups going because it causes new people to hate them all the time and you keep a constant influx of new members.

I do not agree with any of the racist hate groups but yet I keep getting associated with them because I speak my mind about how they are wrong and need to read real history and not the bull**** put in school text books and bull**** put in books by second hand and third hand sources.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2017 | 12:38 AM
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See that's the problem you try to share your heritage and your story and you get called a liar, a racist, a white nationalist, a KKK klansmen, etc. They say you are wrong and telling lies about the civil war.

I do not agree with any of the racist hate groups but yet I keep getting associated with them because I speak my mind about how they are wrong and need to read real history and not the bull**** put in school text books and bull**** put in books by second hand and third hand sources.

Alt-right is controlled opposition. They use hateful rhetoric to discredit anyone who tries to defend southern heritage. They are just puppets acting out the lies in your textbooks.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2017 | 12:56 AM
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Alt-right is controlled opposition. They use hateful rhetoric to discredit anyone who tries to defend southern heritage. They are just puppets acting out the lies in your textbooks.
Yep, I just left a site I been on for a few years, never going back. I got banned for 24 hours on the forums cause in the politics section I called a guy a ****ing moron after he kept saying you don't need permits to have a protest. But now today no bans on them for calling me a ****, calling me racist, implying I cant hold down a job, making fun of my user name, etc. But oh boy did they take and lock my topic after my post was made 5:17am forum time then when I went back to main politics section it showed the topic was locked but yet at 5:27am and 5:30am forum time two more posts were made further insulting me and its showing up still locked so I cant post.

The person responded to my ticket told me they don't play favorites that I was banned for 24 hours for making a personal attack on the other guy. But yet now they wont respond to me after calling them out on the obvious bias that the moderator has which she is one of them.

Just sad that that topic is the same exact topic on this forum which ive posted on a few others as well. Only on there has it turned into a **** storm like that with me being the racist hateful person. Oh yea I'm racist and hateful because a video shows something different and I want to share it.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2017 | 05:53 AM
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forums like that do not need your input Rusty. the posters there swing from someones *********, and they sure ain't yours.

there is another ford forum i and a bunch of others here are on that was like that until all people who thought they were gods gift yo ford truck owners decided to start their own little world forum. after they left they tried coming back to cause trouble, but were all banned soon enough.
it is now a pretty good place on the lines of FTE. only no where near as big.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2017 | 10:10 AM
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The basic idea is to get people fighting amongst themselves, rather than working together. As you can observe, it works.

Don't take the bait. It is not easy, as everything is specifically designed to get into your face and provoke you into a response and label you as an extremist and they've already laid the ground for that too. Then they claim the high ground and justification for doing whatever it is they wanted to do. Rinse lather repeat.

George Bush senior got a taste of that at Tulane university back when he was the US representative to the UN. He was giving a speech about Vietnam. The student lefty radicals wanted to protest. Alinsky said that's the wrong way to go about it. They carried KKK signs and acted like they supported him. Guilt by association, and then the press amplifies it to eleventy.

Now you know what a "community organizer" does. It takes planning and coordination, and money. Most people have no idea how much BS is out there or how to defend their communities against it.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2017 | 12:38 PM
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forums like that do not need your input Rusty. the posters there swing from someones *********, and they sure ain't yours.

there is another ford forum i and a bunch of others here are on that was like that until all people who thought they were gods gift yo ford truck owners decided to start their own little world forum. after they left they tried coming back to cause trouble, but were all banned soon enough.
it is now a pretty good place on the lines of FTE. only no where near as big.
Oh I know, its just sad that peoples go to is always those labels. Uhuh surreee I'm racist because I tried to defend the driver of this car because this video is enough to cast doubt on it being intentional. But yet they all say well if you drive through a protest you are at fault even if you were in fear. Sorry but enough cases of fear reactions where people were ran over were found innocent as it was a fear reaction. But they cant grasp that.

in the end I got a 48 hour ban on there because I lashed out at that guy personally after he personally attacked me. I don't know if they got banned as well or not doesn't matter. I wont be using that forum again.

If those people were to follow me around for one day just one day during the work week they would see how stupid their slanderous labels against me are. But I guess I was racist towards that old black man that came in to see if we had any scrap for him as we throw all metal in a special bucket for the junk men to take. We both said good morning and had a little chat about how hot it was and told each other to have a good day. Damn I was just brutally racist towards that old man.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2017 | 12:41 PM
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The basic idea is to get people fighting amongst themselves, rather than working together. As you can observe, it works.

Don't take the bait. It is not easy, as everything is specifically designed to get into your face and provoke you into a response and label you as an extremist and they've already laid the ground for that too. Then they claim the high ground and justification for doing whatever it is they wanted to do. Rinse lather repeat.

George Bush senior got a taste of that at Tulane university back when he was the US representative to the UN. He was giving a speech about Vietnam. The student lefty radicals wanted to protest. Alinsky said that's the wrong way to go about it. They carried KKK signs and acted like they supported him. Guilt by association, and then the press amplifies it to eleventy.

Now you know what a "community organizer" does. It takes planning and coordination, and money. Most people have no idea how much BS is out there or how to defend their communities against it.
Of course. Its just like today here in Houston someone vandalized a donated statue of Colmbus they threw red paint on it and now all the artsy people are upset about it here because it was art.

Then yesterday bunch of blm activists started crying for the removal of all monuments to slave owners including our founding fathers. Funny I said when this confederate monument thing started that I would not be surprised if they go after all. Sure enough now they are.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2017 | 12:45 PM
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Its just like this here.

There are certain moments in US history when Confederate monuments go up - CNN

Look at the two spikes for the installation of Confederate monuments. They are pushing the agenda that it is because of civil rights. Like for example NAACP was founded in 1909 with the peak being in 1910 for Confederate monuments, and the civil rights era being 1954 - 1968 with the peak being 1963.

Now lets take a look at it from this view. 1910 is the first peak, well 1911 is 50 years after the start of the Civil war in 1861, 1910 is 50 years if you figure 1860 when the Confederate states started to break away.

Second peak 1963, well 1961 is 100 years after the civil war started in 1861, but its also 100 years after the most costly battle for the Confederates the battle of Gettysburg 1863 and the first time slavery became a cause of the civil war by Lincolns mouth.

But nope they were put up just to show the blacks at those times that they were not equals. Just laughable plus this is coming from CNN anyways.
 
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Oh I know, its just sad that peoples go to is always those labels. Uhuh surreee I'm racist because I tried to defend the driver of this car because this video is enough to cast doubt on it being intentional. But yet they all say well if you drive through a protest you are at fault even if you were in fear. Sorry but enough cases of fear reactions where people were ran over were found innocent as it was a fear reaction. But they cant grasp that.

in the end I got a 48 hour ban on there because I lashed out at that guy personally after he personally attacked me. I don't know if they got banned as well or not doesn't matter. I wont be using that forum again.

If those people were to follow me around for one day just one day during the work week they would see how stupid their slanderous labels against me are. But I guess I was racist towards that old black man that came in to see if we had any scrap for him as we throw all metal in a special bucket for the junk men to take. We both said good morning and had a little chat about how hot it was and told each other to have a good day. Damn I was just brutally racist towards that old man.
last year i was called a racist by a welfare leech because i made a comment about lazy welfare recipients bleeding the system dry in a conversation with the black store owner and two of his black employees, one being his daughter. .
let me tell you, i never saw that man get so mad!! i thought he was going to have a heart attack.
he tore into the welfare leech telling her all the good i do for the community no matter of race or skin color, and made sure to let her know my daughter in law is black. then told her to get the eff out of his store and don't ever come back.
made me feel good someone had my back for a change.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2017 | 01:21 PM
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Remember back in ancient history, like 7 months ago when they asked Candidate Trump whether he'd accept the results of the election were he to lose? LOL

What's happening now is full scorched earth policy. Tearing friends and families apart even more. Keep in mind this is all distraction as well, to draw attention 180° away from the real issues that concern everyone, that need our undivided attention.

The history of Balkanized societies are not good, the founding fathers knew this and specifically and deliberately set up a system of government based on separation of powers, judiciary, chief executive. When a mob comes through your town burning everything down screaming "This is what Democracy looks like!" they don't have any clue how right they are.

Now you know what "community organizing" does for you.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2017 | 07:08 PM
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Remember back in ancient history, like 7 months ago when they asked Candidate Trump whether he'd accept the results of the election were he to lose? LOL

What's happening now is full scorched earth policy. Tearing friends and families apart even more. Keep in mind this is all distraction as well, to draw attention 180° away from the real issues that concern everyone, that need our undivided attention.

The history of Balkanized societies are not good, the founding fathers knew this and specifically and deliberately set up a system of government based on separation of powers, judiciary, chief executive. When a mob comes through your town burning everything down screaming "This is what Democracy looks like!" they don't have any clue how right they are.

Now you know what "community organizing" does for you.
Yep but whats real funny is they want to say well you are white you don't have to fear anything from the KKK and other racist groups like that. Oh really? Funny because my mom told me a story the other day about how back in the early 60's before they moved here to Houston the KKK came through the small town they were at and everyone which were all white people locked their doors and hid inside because the KKK were not just against blacks but they were also against catholics as well.

Its like today those hate groups are all about purity just like hitler was. Do these people really think all whites are pure enough to be fine by their purity standards lol.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2017 | 09:34 PM
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Evil doesn't discriminate.Who in their right mind issued permits to domestic terrorist,in this case here,radical white supremacist,to terrorize their communities?
That's the scary part.That mistake resulted in a murder.I bet they wish they didn't issue that permit now.

Some radical white supremacist want to come to town? Oh sure.Here's your permit.We'll even have the police slack off for them.

Some Native Americans are standing holding hands,in prayer,and dancing to protect our water?! Oh hell no! It's a riot! Send in the tear gas!

We've still got a very long ways to go guys.
 
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Evil doesn't discriminate.Who in their right mind issued permits to domestic terrorist,in this case here,radical white supremacist,to terrorize their communities?
That's the scary part.That mistake resulted in a murder.I bet they wish they didn't issue that permit now.

Some radical white supremacist want to come to town? Oh sure.Here's your permit.We'll even have the police slack off for them.

Some Native Americans are standing holding hands,in prayer,and dancing to protect our water?! Oh hell no! Send in the tear gas!
well that's the thing no matter if you disagree with them or agree with them you cant bar them from exercising their rights as US citizens.
 
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well that's the thing no matter if you disagree with them or agree with them you cant bar them from exercising their rights as US citizens.
Brother,they locked up reporters,reporting on standing rock.They shot water cannons at Americans simply standing peacefully in freezing temps.They arrested them in the masses.


For months, environmental protesters have clashed with police and private security companies over plans for the Dakota Access Pipeline, a $3.7 billion project that opponents say will destroy Native American sites and affect the region’s water supply. While mainstream media have covered flashpoints in the protests, a core of mostly freelance, left-wing, and Native American outlets have remained at the site to provide daily coverage.

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