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Transmission fluid type
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Transmission fluid type
1982 Ford econoline with a 302 and a C4 automatic transmission. What fluid does it take? Does anyone know for sure? Cause all the forums I've read say either Type F or some say dex/Merc, I have no idea if it's ever been rebuilt cause there has been several owners before me and I'm so confused of what is required, on the transmission tag below "PGD BN11 C4" and "E1UP GB 025052". And on dip stick "ESP-M2C138-CJ(type CJ) oil D9UP-7A020-AA. M
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Fleet Owner
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I will tell you I put mercon V in a 1990 aod transmission and it acted up terribly--changed it out for the dex merc--it's acting normal again~~~~ just in my case-- I did a complete change filter ETC both times~~~~~
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red, oily feeling should work.
but most bottles are not labelled 'red, oily feeling' so goto walmart and in the blue bottle get 'automatic transmission fluid' and dump that in. it will be dexron/mercon cross rated and will work.
but most bottles are not labelled 'red, oily feeling' so goto walmart and in the blue bottle get 'automatic transmission fluid' and dump that in. it will be dexron/mercon cross rated and will work.
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If you believe this I've got some swamp land in Southern Arizona to sell you.
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Mercon was used with C4 & C6 beginning in 1977. Today, it's Mercon V
btw: Your 1982 Econoline 302 has a C6 (17 trans pan bolt holes), not C4. Last year for the C4 was 1981.
ID number: D9UP-7A020-AA = Ford part number: D9UZ-7A020-A .. C6 Dipstick = 1979/86 E100/250 302; 1983/86 E250/350 6.9L Diesel.
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Mountain Pass
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Number Dummy, not to overly belabor the point, but the factory service manual for my 1982 E350 with 460 and C6 automatic specifically calls for Type F transmission fluid. As a result, with some serious searching, I purchased Motorcraft Fluid XT-1-QF Type-F Automatic Transmission and Power Steering Fluid. On the bottle, it specifically states not to use in transmissions requiring MERCON LV, MERCON V or MERCON SP. So, I remain concerned about the proper fluid. I assume serious chemical engineering has gone into transmission fluids since 1982 and I would like to use a synthetic that would have a broader temperature range in view of the stresses associated with pushing this 12,500 pound motorhome beast over the Sierras. Open to any answers!
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Number Dummy, not to overly belabor the point, but the factory service manual for my 1982 E350 with 460 and C6 automatic specifically calls for Type F transmission fluid. As a result, with some serious searching, I purchased Motorcraft Fluid XT-1-QF Type-F Automatic Transmission and Power Steering Fluid. On the bottle, it specifically states not to use in transmissions requiring MERCON LV, MERCON V or MERCON SP. So, I remain concerned about the proper fluid. I assume serious chemical engineering has gone into transmission fluids since 1982 and I would like to use a synthetic that would have a broader temperature range in view of the stresses associated with pushing this 12,500 pound motorhome beast over the Sierras. Open to any answers!
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Yea, if you have an older one. There's no place for that on newer models like my 96. Just a wire with a 1" plastic tip.
Mountain Pass
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I purchased this Motorhome from the second owner with 43,000 miles on it. I'm reasonably certain it had never undergone a transmission overhaul. The second owner did add a Gear Vendors overdrive unit. I added a Hughes Towmaster torque converter in my search for better gas mileage. I now have 78,000 miles on the Motorhome. As far as I know, the clutch linings have never been replaced. When I had the torque converter replaced (2010) the filter was replaced as well as the fluid (of course) but I have no record of the fluid used by the shop. Dipstick says Type F, consistent with the FSM.
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Notice what is says in the lower pic for ATF for 1977/ inre to C4, C6 and etc.
Upper pic: Where is there any reference for TYPE F used in a C6? There isn't any because Type F was last used in 1976!
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- Stick with type F. If I recall, you can add F to later models without harm but not the other way round. And trust the owners manual. The shop manual may not have been updated to your applicationI purchased this Motorhome from the second owner with 43,000 miles on it. I'm reasonably certain it had never undergone a transmission overhaul. The second owner did add a Gear Vendors overdrive unit. I added a Hughes Towmaster torque converter in my search for better gas mileage. I now have 78,000 miles on the Motorhome. As far as I know, the clutch linings have never been replaced. When I had the torque converter replaced (2010) the filter was replaced as well as the fluid (of course) but I have no record of the fluid used by the shop. Dipstick says Type F, consistent with the FSM.
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To avoid undue stress on the C6, keep it out of OD climbing hills. That'll build heat faster than snything