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Old Jul 22, 2017 | 11:39 AM
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help with biodiesel

purchased my first powerstroke in may, i had not experienced biodiesel until 2 weeks ago when i did a road trip to oklahoma, kansas,missouri and illinois. i searched for diesel #2 because i didn't know what it was. its ok to use, does it need additives or special servicing??
 
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Old Jul 22, 2017 | 12:05 PM
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I noticed a few months ago that pumps here started having stickers saying the diesel contained between 5 and 20% biodiesel. The manual mentions it in a few places.

Manual pages 186,187 and 589:

You should use Ultra-Low Sulfur Diesel
fuel (also known as ULSD) designated as
number 1-D or 2-D with a maximum of
15-ppm sulfur in your diesel vehicle. You
may operate your vehicle on diesel fuels
containing up to 20% biodiesel, also
known as B20. These fuels should meet
the ASTM D975 diesel or the ASTM D7467
B6-B20 biodiesel industry specifications.
Outside of North America, use fuels
meeting EN590 or equivalent local market
standard.


Using Biodiesel, up to and Including 20% Biodiesel (B20)
Change the engine oil and filter as indicated by the
information display, and perform the services listed in the
scheduled maintenance chart.
As required
Replace the engine-mounted and frame-mounted fuel
filters.
Every 15,000 mi
(24,000 km), six months or
300 engine hours
 
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Old Jul 22, 2017 | 06:51 PM
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Running B5 my fuel filters are shot at 10,000 miles. I can't imagine what B20 would do to them?
 
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Old Jul 22, 2017 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Bread Truck
Running B5 my fuel filters are shot at 10,000 miles. I can't imagine what B20 would do to them?
how did you know your filters were bad after 10k?
 
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Old Jul 22, 2017 | 09:26 PM
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The first tank of b20 will usually do a number on your fuel filters. Biodiesel is a solvent and picks up all the sludge that accumulates in any petro diesel tank and carries it to the filters. After the first tank swap out the filters and you should be good to go unless you run straight petro for a few thousand miles again.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2017 | 09:07 AM
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I changed the filters on my '14 about every 20,000. I ran a few tanks of B20 through it, and quite a few tanks of B5-15. (most of the truckstops up and down the west coast seem to be B5-15) I never had any noticeable filter issues. (or any water in the separator)
 
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Old Jul 23, 2017 | 10:16 AM
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follow a severe service schedule and expect lower fuel ecomony. Perhaps more regens.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2017 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by racinjake
purchased my first powerstroke in may, i had not experienced biodiesel until 2 weeks ago when i did a road trip to oklahoma, kansas,missouri and illinois. i searched for diesel #2 because i didn't know what it was. its ok to use, does it need additives or special servicing??
I use B20 pretty regularly. I have heard people say you will take a fuel economy hit, but I havent noticed a difference. Certainly not like using e85 instead of regular gasoline. I will say this, its probably a bad idea to run the B20 in vehicles that have been running on D2 for an extended period of time. Such as switching a vehicle with 80k miles of D2 to B20. You will almost certainly have injector issues. Not because of the B20 itself, but because it cleans your system and frees up things that don't belong in injectors. This is all hear say...I am a mechanic by no means.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2017 | 08:56 AM
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Biodiesel is good for the emissions systems because it creates less soot. And has more lubricity so it's good for the fuel system.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2017 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by tony m 6.7
Biodiesel is good for the emissions systems because it creates less soot. And has more lubricity so it's good for the fuel system.
This. You won't notice the soot benefit because our trucks can only run up to B20, and there's still 80% of the same old petroleum with it's naphthenic pitch precursors.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2017 | 09:23 AM
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Not for any particular reason but I'm going to stay away from using bio-diesel unless it's an absolute emergency.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2017 | 10:07 AM
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Not for any particular reason but I'm going to stay away from using bio-diesel unless it's an absolute emergency.
Good luck. It's pretty much all that's available at the high volume places around here.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2017 | 10:15 AM
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Biodiesel at the pump is generally around 5-11% even though the sticker on the pump says 5-20%. Just make sure you run a good winter anti-gel additive with any biodiesel mix. As well as with normal diesel fuel.
 
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Old Jul 25, 2017 | 11:14 AM
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Anyone try Propel Diesel HPR?

Propel Diesel HPR

There is a station local to me that is on avg. $.30 cheaper/gal.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2017 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ERock62
Anyone try Propel Diesel HPR?

Propel Diesel HPR

There is a station local to me that is on avg. $.30 cheaper/gal.
Ive been running HPR since my first fill up, I'm at almost 6000 miles now. I did run one tank of #2 and definitely could tell a difference. HPR gives the truck more throttle response and it is much quieter , I also add archoil to every fill up and I average 20 on freeway and 15-16 around town. I got a buddy that is the fleet manager for the state and he oversees all the trucks and said all they run now is hpr with archoil .
 
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