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Jul 12, 2017 | 03:07 PM

daveengelson

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Dip stick: front or rear oil pan sump?

The P/N on the Dip Stick: DOAF-6750-D. Originally the prior owner installed a 70 Torino 302, not sure if it came with the front sump? Several years later I installed a 68 Created 302 and used same pan. Found determining oil capacity depends on which manual I use as a source; 5 or 6 quarts with new filter? The last oil change, with a new filter, I stopped at 4.5 quarts when the oil level on dip stick was far above the 'safe' zone. I do not believe year engine is an issue but rather whether the dip stick is for a front or rear oil pan sump.

Any comments/Suggestions appreciated!!

Jul 15, 2017 | 03:53 AM

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I had a 70 Torino with a 302 when I was a pup and yes they are a front sump, 5 quarts with filter. The rear sump pans are a little deeper so they take 6 quarts.

Jul 15, 2017 | 10:07 AM

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I had a 70 Torino with a 302 when I was a pup and yes they are a front sump, 5 quarts with filter. The rear sump pans are a little deeper so they take 6 quarts.

I thank you, very helpful. At this point not sure how much oil is in the pan; although sooner than needed, intend changing the oil and filter and stay with 5 quarts, and perhaps add ZDDP? Meantime, keep eye out for the appropriate dipstick?

Again, thank you!

Jul 15, 2017 | 10:24 AM

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The P/N

on the Dip Stick: DOAF-6750-D.

Originally the prior owner installed a 70 Torino 302, not sure if it came with the front sump?

Geez Louise, I gave you this info yesterday in your other thread.

This is not the part number, it's the ID engineering number marked on the dipstick, but the problem is, this is an invalid ID number.

Engine related ID engineering numbers have an E as the 4th digit of the prefix, but there is no ID engineering number of D0AE-6750-D

1970 Torino 302 dipstick ID engineering number: D0AE-6750-C .. The Ford part number is D0AZ-6750-C

It doesn't matter if the pan is front or rear sump, because this same dipstick was used in:

1969/74 F100 302 / 1970/72 302 Galaxie/LTD/Fairlane/Torino/Mustang/Cougar/Maverick/Comet / 1973 302 Mustang / 1973/74 302 Torino/Cougar/Maverick/Comet.

It was also used in misc 351W Passenger Cars.

Jul 15, 2017 | 11:05 AM

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Confirmed the 'ID engineering #' stamped on the current dipstick is D0AE-6750-C. In my view the stick is useless, intend chancing oil and filter, add 5 quarts and small container of ZDDP then scribe as a reference point?

Jul 15, 2017 | 12:28 PM

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Since the 302 in your F100 came from a 1970 Torino, D0AZ-6750-C is the only correct dipstick.

The 302 truck oil pan (C9TZ-6675-A) is the same: 1969/79 F100 & 1975/79 F150.

D5OZ-6750-A .. 302 Engine Oil Dipstick / Marked: D5OE-6750-AA / Obsolete

1975 F100/150 / 1975 Granada/Monarch.
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D6OZ-6750-A .. 302 Engine Oil Dipstick / Marked: D6OE-6750-AA / Obsolete

1976/79 F100/150 / 1976 Torino; 1976/77 Maverick/Comet; 1976/78 LTD; 1976/80 Granada/Monarch; 1977/79 LTD II (not an LTD!)/Cougar/Thunderbird.

1977: FoMoCo replaced the Torino name with LTD II. A ridiculous name, because most people including garages and body shops didn't know the )*(*&^$ difference!

The only nameplate was on the deck lid, it had a large LTD at the front with a tiny II behind it.

FYI: Ranchero based off: 1957/59 Ford Passenger Cars; 1960/66 Falcon; 1967 Fairlane; 1968/71 Fairlane/Torino; 1972/76 Torino; 1977/79 LTD II.

Jul 15, 2017 | 01:41 PM

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Thank you Bill, Found 3 supplier's, 1 each of the D0AZ-6750-C. Emailed regarding price.

brake4beaver confirmed; 1, 70 Torino came with front sump so existing pan likely the original; 2nd, takes 5 quarts w/ filter. Having said that, and with input I now have the option of replacing with the correct stick, or scribe a line?

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Jul 15, 2017 | 02:53 PM

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Thank you Bill, based on your input in the past I have purchased items from Bo, found him very helpful and willing to take the time to search inventory for the particular item.

Do not recall if I purchased from NOS they do offer 'buy' option $40 +SH, tempted, I should just do it and not have to question the reading.

Jul 15, 2017 | 05:11 PM

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Purchased from NOS D0AZ-6750-C and be done with it. Awaiting with bated breath?

Jul 17, 2017 | 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by NumberDummy

It doesn't matter if the pan is front or rear sump, because this same dipstick was used in:

1969/74 F100 302 / 1970/72 302 Galaxie/LTD/Fairlane/Torino/Mustang/Cougar/Maverick/Comet / 1973 302 Mustang / 1973/74 302 Torino/Cougar/Maverick/Comet.

It was also used in misc 351W Passenger Cars.

It doesn't matter ? None of those vehicles had a rear sump pan. The 2wd pickup pans of that era had a longer sump that accommodated the extra quart. The only rear sumps of that era were the 4wd pickup pans and the Econoline pans.